Only a very few of my friends know that I'm TG. I moved from Hobart to Melbourne not long after coming out and went full time from the plane landing.
I'm tiny and always have been, so that helped a lot, the friends in my life I met all after starting full time.
Last night I really wanted to say everything, but one I knew she would be the first to tell everyone, and two) she would use it against me, boy I'm just glad that he can leave if he wants to, I really feel sorry for their kid.

Quote from: Hanazono on November 07, 2014, 05:15:01 PM
I think this nasty woman will do anything. cis girls... tsktsk

It seems like to me that she'll do anything including breaking up a strong group of friends to be the alpha female in the group, even if that group doesn't have an alpha person

*hugs*

Sorry you have to put up with her, Nicole. She sounds awful. And I also feel sorry for Nathan, having to live with her.

Nicole, I owe you an apology for thinking that perhaps you were the problem. It had been that way before in my own experience so I must have been a bit jaded as I read your initial account. Even my cis spouse was following this drama and we couldn't wait to find out how the dinner party went as we speculated about what was really behind all of this as we mentally worked through various kinds of potential relationship dynamics. My hat is off to you in how you handled it, we can only wonder how long Nathan is going to put up with that kind of behavior.

Initially I had wondered how he wound up married to her when you were obviously single and the two of you had such an amicable relationship. Now in retrospect knowing what I know had I been in Nathan's shoes you would have been my first choice, but then that's just me, I like women and especially intelligent, petite women who can,knock down a few drinks in mixed company and be comfortable in that environment. Good going Lady, you have all my respect and admiration!

Quote from: Shantel on November 07, 2014, 06:38:45 PM
Nicole, I owe you an apology for thinking that perhaps you were the problem. It had been that way before in my own experience so I must have been a bit jaded as I read your initial account. Even my cis spouse was following this drama and we couldn't wait to find out how the dinner party went as we speculated about what was really behind all of this as we mentally worked through various kinds of potential relationship dynamics. My hat is off to you in how you handled it, we can only wonder how long Nathan is going to put up with that kind of behavior.

Initially I had wondered how he wound up married to her when you were obviously single and the two of you had such an amicable relationship. Now in retrospect knowing what I know had I been in Nathan's shoes you would have been my first choice, but then that's just me, I like women and especially intelligent, petite women who can,knock down a few drinks in mixed company and be comfortable in that environment. Good going Lady, you have all my respect and admiration!

I knew I had done or said nothing to or about her, I'm not that type of person and none of my friends would have said I did.

As for how he ended up with her.
Remember about 10 years back there was a movie with 4 guys having a bet on who will get married last?
One of the guys had never had regular sex and they said the first girl who gives him regular sex he'll end up marrying because he was in his late 20's.
That movie sums him up pretty well.
Up until this girl, I had only ever seen or heard of him being with very few girls, this girl is his first relationship and just like the movie, they settled down very quick.

Well thats my theory on it any way

Quote from: Nicole on November 07, 2014, 03:43:34 PM
WOW WOW WOW what a bitch!!!!!!

So they came over for dinner last night, they live about 5km away and I said to them bring their dog (about 6 months old & mines 5).

I ordered cause it was 33˚ and they were fine, I also paid which I said is only fair.

The dogs got on well, which they do, mine if she's had enough will leave and put herself to bed, she does that with people, kids and other dogs.
When my baby had enough she left, the little comments that mines a little bitch cause hers just wanted to play and if I knew mine was going to do that, why did I say to bring the dog.

Anyway, she bitched all night about the food, which mind you I gave her the 100% choice of.

Later in the night Nathan went to the loo, so I asked her why is she being like this to me.

The reply:
She hates girls that have it so easy all their life.

I went off, I said if she had to go through half the stuff I had to go through she would have died a long time ago, I've been friends with Nathan a long time, I'm always going to be friends with him whether she likes it or not, because my friends are his friends, she needs to get used to it that he has female friends in his life, all that love him. Get used to it, get over it or move on.

At this point Nathan comes out and I thought "oh ->-bleeped-<-" but he defended me and said that he told her to stop being such a bitch to me, his friends are going to pick me over him if you start driving her away, just like last weekend.


They left about 5 minutes later, but he sent me a text saying sorry that she's being such a bitch to me, he's told her a few times to stop it and hopefully now she'll "get it".

OK so she really seems like a real bitch. Sorry for even suggesting what I did earlier. I am a bitch and not even that much of a bitch.

Let him deal with it. Either it will be a catastrophy because no man will take that kind of crap forever especially when he is losing friends, even friends that are girls, over her bitchiness.

But on the other hand... Never mind. I won't even suggest it openly and or just let it run its course. Eventually he will grab something and remember he is a man and don;t have to deal with a woman like that, married or not to her.

Quote from: Nicole on November 07, 2014, 07:13:07 PM
I knew I had done or said nothing to or about her, I'm not that type of person and none of my friends would have said I did.

As for how he ended up with her.
Remember about 10 years back there was a movie with 4 guys having a bet on who will get married last?
One of the guys had never had regular sex and they said the first girl who gives him regular sex he'll end up marrying because he was in his late 20's.
That movie sums him up pretty well.
Up until this girl, I had only ever seen or heard of him being with very few girls, this girl is his first relationship and just like the movie, they settled down very quick.

Well thats my theory on it any way

That is a most interesting observation because once we determined that you were not in fact the culprit after all then we surmised that scenario was the root of the problem before reading your theory here. I can't tell you how many times I've seen this same story played out, the handsome young son of my neighbor was extremely shy and had no sexual experience when this cute little vamp with one baby by another tryst pulled him up between her thighs and he's stuck with a wife and two babies and he's still just a kid himself with zero life experience, this girl is a bitch toward his parents and siblings and extremely controlling. Those kinds of marriages based on sex alone don't usually last long which brings to mind BB King's song "The thrill is gone!" My money is on the probability that you and the other ladies will get your boy back and all will be well in Oz.

So Sunday.

His wife had her baby shower.
At about midday I get a text from Nathan, "what ya doing" I said recovering and at home, next thing I know he's at my door, all his friends were at the shower, working or busy doing other things.

It was like the old days, we sat around listening to music, talking rubbish, having a few drinks.
Was a good little afternoon and she even came and picked him up, said hi and she seemed to be talking to me, I even gave her a baby shower gift.

I'm just worried that she might turn on something else.

Maybe, I'm not sure though, I've sworn off dating for a while, had a really bad break up that resulted in the guy facing jail (long story, but he never hit me though).

Nathan and I had a good chat the other day, wasn't what took up all of the time, but he basically said sorry, he had told her to lay off me and that everyone will take my side if push came.
They had it out when they got home and explained a few things about my past, he as far as I know doesn't know I'm trans, but said that school was hell for me, I lost my father before I was born and I worked harder than anyone he's known to get to where I am.

So I'm pretty sure for now it's sorted, but that could be me just hoping, she was nicer when she picked him up, but I did have gift in hand.

The best.
Down to earth, respectful, level headed and fun.
Doesn't look at any of my friends or I as women, just as friends and we all know he can be counted on.
   

She obviously feels threatened. Eff that bitch. I'd be so rude to her honestly lol Idk why you've put up with it.

I always try, well at least with people I know.
The reasons I put up with it is I love my friend, I want to stay friends and it's sad that yes he has this wife that treats people this way, but the good of him outweighs her

I had to post an update here on this.
So this girl is still being bitchy, not just to me.

Just before xmas they had their baby, born 10 weeks early and it was a battle, we all chipped in and helped out little Rose is going well.

A few weeks ago there was a bit of a dig at me when they got baby photos done, knowing I was a photographer she posted "My wonderful friend, the best photographer I know". I let it go and just liked the photos she put on Facebook.
Last weekend she was going on and on about them, her friend was there and she was telling everyone how great a photographer she was, again I was letting it go. UNTIL!
She came out and said "I've seen Nicoles work, its not great and thats why we didn't ask her"
My reply was "well, by the looks of it you went with a weekend warrior who wouldn't know contrast if it slapped her in the face, oh, and you couldn't afford me".

I know I shouldn't have bit, but a few of my friends were saying to me that it was about time.

Then last night.
My best friend is getting married, they're doing it tough because her husband to be lost his job.
Anyway they found their venue for their wedding and I've helped them with payments.
Anyway she's been going on and on about having a wedding overseas like they did, Charlotte keeps saying that she wouldn't do that to family & friends and such. She keeps going on about how all her friends loved it and last night it she was baiting Charlotte over it when Charlotte had enough and said "TBH, other than your family, I wouldn't be saying YOUR friends loved it, bit hard to enjoy an overseas wedding from Melbourne".

It then clicked to a few of us that other than her family, she had no guests at the wedding and of the 50 people there, she had 5 people.