Trouble In Transtopia: Murmurs Of Sex Change Regret
Source: http://thefederalist.com/2014/11/11/trouble-in-transtopia-murmurs-of-sex-change-regret/
Author: Stella Morabito
Posted: Nov 11th, 2014

"Everyone has regrets. Some of us have big regrets. Most everyone has some place to go to get help dealing with them."

What a pathetic, one-sided, disgusting hit piece from the RWNJs. 

Why its not talked why trans comunities can have trouble with regreters ? Like the fear to be talked of generalised as in the article

This is why I stay away from news. You don't even have to read the entire thing to see how it's slanted. You can even read the headlines and figure out what direction they're going. I'm sure there are people who want to detransition out there, but this seems like an obviously slanted article. Where did all the unbiased news go? 

Just look at the source.   This is no surprise.

I always wonder where ones own responsibility of there own actions come to play?

Easy to place the blame on someone for there own response in the process.

Anyway, it's like that with everything now in the world. A easy buck.

I own my decision in my life.

Did anyone else catch that Susans.org was mentioned in the article?

Quote from: Marcellow on November 11, 2014, 05:42:55 PM
Did anyone else catch that Susans.org was mentioned in the article?

Yeah I saw that. Their obviously cherry picking to support their biased views. I can admit there are people in the trans community who do have a lot of vitriol for people who experience transition regret, but they aren't the norm and this article is trying to make it out like it is.

Predictable... using biased views that gender transition is nothing but "mutilating the body that God gave you," and cherry-picking like 5 examples of it in order to claim that somehow that means it's wrong for everyone.

What I find funny is that the author basically counters her own argument... she lists a study that shows that 65% of people who have had cosmetic surgery regret it, and yet didn't link to a single study showing what percentage of trans people regret it, she just listed like 4 or 5 individual examples. So where's the study showing that that same proportion of trans people regret it? And that therefore SRS really is just the same as getting a boob job or a nose job for a cis person? Nope? Just that study that shows that post-op Swedish trans people have "higher mortality than the general population?" (which basically means absolutely nothing, because first of all that's only a difference of 12% compared to the non-trans population after a whopping 30 years, and again, that same study actually showed "no statistically-significant difference" in those sex-reassigned after the year 1989.)

Every study that I've seen on SRS outcomes has shown that about 90% of people are satisfied with it. And considering that the British survey that the writer of this article linked to, with that whopping 65% figure for regretting plastic surgery in general, (and again, she never linked to a study on what percentage of trans people regret SRS, she just picked individual examples,) that basically completely invalidates the entire point of the study. If MtF SRS were just like any other cosmetic surgery, than wouldn't 65% of trans women be regretting it too? Where's the study showing that? Nowhere? 10% at most? Then SRS must not be like other cosmetic surgeries. And being transgender must not be the same as other people who just arbitratily feel like they wish they had bigger boobs or a smaller nose.

Just saying. Ignore this right-wing "God made you this way" bigoted and limited view of trans regret stories, and stick with the actual statistics.

I've only read the headline and comments in this thread, but the word "Transtopia" makes me laugh. Does the fringey conservative author of this piece think being trans is a utopia? Kind of tells me they may be repressing something, hehe.

Quote from: AnonBear on November 11, 2014, 05:54:13 PM
Yeah I saw that. Their obviously cherry picking to support their biased views. I can admit there are people in the trans community who do have a lot of vitriol for people who experience transition regret, but they aren't the norm and this article is trying to make it out like it is.

The problem is that some regretters try to validate their own situations by throwing the rest of us under the bus while making a few bucks on the side.  Is a full transition the answer for everyone who experiences gender issues?  No.  But it is for many of us.  I have read that the suicide attempt rate goes from 41% to 4.5% post-op.  Any psychiatrist will tell you that any treatement that reduces suicide rates this dramatically is a good one.

Quote from: Jill F on November 11, 2014, 06:03:19 PM
The problem is that some regretters try to validate their own situations by throwing the rest of us under the bus while making a few bucks on the side.  Is a full transition the answer for everyone who experiences gender issues?  No.  But it is for many of us.  I have read that the suicide attempt rate goes from 41% to 4.5% post-op.  Any psychiatrist will tell you that any treatement that reduces suicide rates this dramatically is a good one.

True. It'd be nice if people who regretted their decisions owned up to them. Its gotta be hard to realize you screwed up so majorly, but come on that doesn't mean the whole trans population is fake.

And I agree with the rest of your statement. Transition is usually life saving, and to try to stop people from transitioning when they gotta is inhuman.

Detransitioners, regretters, they're still transitioning and still transgender people, aren't they? A reminder:

10. Bashing or flaming of any individuals or groups is not acceptable behavior on this web site and will not be tolerated in the slightest for any reason.  This includes but is not limited to:Advocating the separation or exclusion of one or more group from under the Transgender umbrella termSuggesting or claiming that one segment or sub-segment of our community is more or less legitimate, deserving, or real than any others

I know this is a sensitive topic. But put yourself in the shoes of someone who goes through the transition process only to find out they still haven't found themselves.  It's not for us to judge people, that's why I bolded deserving. If you think transition is tough, try doing it twice.

Hugs, Devlyn

Quote from: Vale on November 11, 2014, 05:27:14 PM
This is why I stay away from news. You don't even have to read the entire thing to see how it's slanted. You can even read the headlines and figure out what direction they're going. I'm sure there are people who want to detransition out there, but this seems like an obviously slanted article. Where did all the unbiased news go? 

Exactly.

I think the right-wingers are trying to stem the flood of support (in the form of federal govt approval for SRS) by yammering about the regrets some have had.

It's political...and evil.

I do think too many in this community aren't sensitive enough to what regretters are going through and go on the defensive about their own choices when confronted with those that transition didn't work for. And then its like its swept under the rug so that company doesn't see our dirt.


I think both sides of the issue could stand some introspection.

Yes, we are guilty as a community of the type of attacks described in the article.

Same old names, same old stuff. The commenters on the site mostly seem to be hate-filled bigots who just want to trash anything "other" and call it "perverse". That's the target audience of these "exposés".

Don't read the comments. Lots of ignorance, hate and just plain unpleasantness.

I checked out the link in the story that this case goes back to 2007 and the alleged flaming occured then on this site. This is old news. There are a lot more people regretting their marriages with the mental stress and expense involved trying to break such a union.

Joelene