Hi all.
It's very confusing exactly where I fall on the gender spectrum but I'm sure I'll never transition. I probably fall more in the crossdresser category, but have
always wanted to be a female.
I really really want to grow breasts.
Is there any chance I could get a gp or therapist to put me on HRT to develop breasts, knowing I don't want to transition?

Julie

Sadly this is largely dependent on your therapist.

My PsyD level therapist would gladly do it for someone as they themselves are non binary. The therapist I had previously in another state would not have.

If you have to, and I know other non-binaries have gone this route, you may have to game the system to get hormones. But if you find a good therapist you may be able to avoid it.

My PsyD may be a long distance friendly doc as well. I will inquire, but as an ICATH PsyD they are not one to stand in the way of whatever you need for you so long as you can prove your consent is informed. I know that other Skype friendly therapists do exist.

Kami

Thanks for the reply,

Couple of questions -
what is ICATH and exactly what do you mean by PsyD?
I assume only a "psychiatrist" can prescribe hormones, not a psychologist, is that true?

Where is your PsyD you refer to?
I'm in Dallas, didn't realize there were Skype-friendly drs!

I hadn't come across the term non-binary, either. I like it.

Julie

Quote from: julie_txcd on November 19, 2014, 08:36:31 PM
Hi all.
It's very confusing exactly where I fall on the gender spectrum but I'm sure I'll never transition. I probably fall more in the crossdresser category, but have
always wanted to be a female.
I really really want to grow breasts.
Is there any chance I could get a gp or therapist to put me on HRT to develop breasts, knowing I don't want to transition?

Julie

I have a friend who is starting hrt but has no wish to socially transition. Is this what you mean?
Being in hrt is a huge part of the physical transition. for some of us it is the whole part of the physical transition. It does a lot more then give you breast....

How do you identify? non-binary? trans women but non-op non-transition? or a cis guy who likes to crossdress? its ok not to know so if you don't, don't feel like I am pressuring you. gender can be confusing....

I would always recommend talking to a therapist and discussing it with your therapist. Your therapist will be able to help you sort through your emotions and help you understand yourself better. that goes for everyone.

to really answer you question it depends on a lot of things, like who your  therapist is, what state/ country you live in.

You can't control what HRT does, though; you may get any or all of the possible changes. Whether to socially transition is up to you, but if you go on HRT to grow breasts you will almost certainly have other physical effects as well.

Quote from: julie_txcd on November 19, 2014, 08:36:31 PM
Hi all.
It's very confusing exactly where I fall on the gender spectrum but I'm sure I'll never transition. I probably fall more in the crossdresser category, but have
always wanted to be a female.
I really really want to grow breasts.
Is there any chance I could get a gp or therapist to put me on HRT to develop breasts, knowing I don't want to transition?

Julie

Yes, I did. Go see Feleshia (I mentioned her in your other thread...).

Quote from: julie_txcd on November 19, 2014, 09:16:53 PM
Thanks for the reply,

Couple of questions -
what is ICATH and exactly what do you mean by PsyD?
I assume only a "psychiatrist" can prescribe hormones, not a psychologist, is that true?

Where is your PsyD you refer to?
I'm in Dallas, didn't realize there were Skype-friendly drs!

I hadn't come across the term non-binary, either. I like it.

Julie

ICATH is a new model for trans friendly medicine. It sttands for Informed Consent Access to Trans Healthcare and there are people in the community trying to get it to replace the outdated WPATH standards.

PsyD is a psychologist/therapist with a Doctorate Level Degree and it stands for Psychological Doctor.

Kami

Quote from: julie_txcd on November 19, 2014, 09:16:53 PM
I assume only a "psychiatrist" can prescribe hormones, not a psychologist, is that true?

Psychologist's and Psychiatrist's can only write letters for HRT. An Endo or sometimes a GP writes the scripts for it because of the blood testing that HAS to be done. You really need to read the WPATH Standards of Care.

Interesting topic. I agree with others, HRT will have other effects besides breast forming. Age and genetics will also effect things on HRT.

Quote from: julie_txcd on November 19, 2014, 09:16:53 PM
I assume only a "psychiatrist" can prescribe hormones, not a psychologist, is that true?

That is correct.  A psychiatrist is a medical doctor and HRT treats something within their scope of practice.  HOWEVER, the average psychiatrist does not have the resources to order bloodwork on you, so I doubt you will find one that will prescribe hormones.

As I understand it, estrogen by itself doesn't work too well in a functioning male body; you'll also need an anti-testosterone (often "Spiro", but there are others) This would put a stop to "The Boys Down Below"), and may affect how...rigid...things will become for you.

While you could take hormones in order to grow breasts, once you stop taking it, they will start to shrink.. Without E to maintain them, they will not stay - at least not as full, rounded breasts.

And on a standard regimen, there's a good chance of male fail happening - which can well be far worse situation than transition might be..

Maybe just breast augmentation??  Im not saying it as a recommendation, just that the "side effects" would be narrower compared to HRT.  Side effects in quotations because for most on HRT they would be the desired results but maybe not for you.

Quote from: Michaela Whimsy on November 20, 2014, 12:57:53 AM
Maybe just breast augmentation??  Im not saying it as a recommendation, just that the "side effects" would be narrower compared to HRT. Side effects in quotations because for most on HRT they would be the desired results but maybe not for you.

LOL, the biggest unexpected side effect for the OP might be wanting more and more of E. Cause, if it is good for Your body - even though Your mind might deny and oppose it - once You get on it, You become addicted .

Emily, when you are talking about it being addicting, making your body feel good, and wanting more of it, you should probably just refer to it as estrogen instead of E    Don't want you getting into any trouble.

Quote from: skin on November 20, 2014, 01:45:58 AM
Emily, when you are talking about it being addicting, making your body feel good, and wanting more of it, you should probably just refer to it as estrogen instead of E    Don't want you getting into any trouble.

Oh, hell, yeah! Did I mentioned that estrogen can make You feel ecstatic?

Quote from: skin on November 19, 2014, 10:43:55 PM
HOWEVER, the average psychiatrist does not have the resources to order bloodwork on you, so I doubt you will find one that will prescribe hormones.

They don't? That is weird. I thought that Psychiatrists were MDs or DOs. All of them that I know can write prescriptions and therefore order blood work... usually when I go to any doctor if they don't have an on premise phlebotomist they write the lab order on a regular prescription blank.

Quote from: Beth Andrea on November 19, 2014, 11:03:52 PM
As I understand it, estrogen by itself doesn't work too well in a functioning male body; you'll also need an anti-testosterone (often "Spiro", but there are others) This would put a stop to "The Boys Down Below"), and may affect how...rigid...things will become for you.

Kind of but actually your sex hormones are controlled via feedback mechanism so if you have enough E your T will be suppressed. The reason they use anti androgens now, IIRC is to reduce the amount of E required for adequate feminization. But for years many TS patients used high dose E only.

But yes E all by itself can kill your sex drive. I know it did for me.

Quote from: ImagineKate on November 20, 2014, 04:21:13 PM
Kind of but actually your sex hormones are controlled via feedback mechanism so if you have enough E your T will be suppressed. The reason they use anti androgens now, IIRC is to reduce the amount of E required for adequate feminization. But for years many TS patients used high dose E only.

This works well for some but not others. I was never able to get T suppression from estrogen.