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if you could take a pill to stop Dysphoria with out changes would you

Started by stephaniec, November 14, 2014, 03:41:57 PM

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Quote from: Nevara on November 18, 2014, 10:35:13 PM
Honestly yes I would take it. I'm stopping my transition so I'm a bit biased but still.

I've come to realize transitioning would lose me my friends and family, and likely derail my career as well. I probably already lost the friends I've told... if not made my relationship extremely strained. Ultimately I'm just replacing the negative feelings I feel from dysphoria with negativity from losing my relationships, support network, being alone and leaving myself in an uncertain financial situation.

What it also comes down to is that I don't think transitioning will fix my dysphoria, at least not fully.

The only thing HRT has dealt with so far was my hormonal dysphoria which has been a blessing but I'll take the short time I was on hormones as a chance to experience true calmness in my life and move on.

My body dysphoria is only going to get worse if I transition as I realize how much I don't look like a woman --- body-wise or face-wise or voice-wise. Sure hormones will help fat redistribution but it can do nothing about my male skeleton. It can do nothing about my male facial structure. It won't ever give me back a high pitched voice. I can try my voice but that feels so forced and fake. Ultimately everything I do towards "passing" just reminds me how I am a fake woman. To be accepted as a real woman by society I'd have to subject myself to surgeries to fix my face, my voice and my body.

And ultimately, my social dysphoria is never going to go away until I do reach that point of "passing" and I can be accepted as a woman. I know some of you have this "who gives a <not allowed>" attitude, but when my family tells me they see non-passing trans woman as freaks and they and my friends are embarrassed to be with me in public if I present as a woman I don't see the point in transitioning. What am I gaining by destroying all my relationships and becoming a social pariah? It's certainly not my mental health.
it's good to find your place
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Jess42

Wow reading back over Tessa wrote something that brought tears to my eyes. If my parents would have known if I were to have been born trans and Eugenics. I may not even be here now. It is hell for sure. It sux and sometimes I just want to lay me down to sleep and just die. Like yesterday. But without the transness I would probably be just another redneck guy that would be a racists and possibly homophobic and transphobic. But I'm not. So I f I have to walk through hell in order to accept and love others for themselves and not who or what they are, then so be it. I will burn happily. Life is about sacrifices. Without the hell that I have been through and if life was all peachy and keen, who would we be? Just a philosophical question. So I would never take a pill to change my essence. That is me and who I am. My body will be nothing but dust in a thousand years. In a thousand years if consciousness is eternal, I may actually be a normal female. Again philosophical because right now I am hanging by a thread. :( Not hijacking this one though.
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Steph34

Quote from: Nevara on November 18, 2014, 10:35:13 PM
I've come to realize transitioning would lose me my friends and family, and likely derail my career as well. I probably already lost the friends I've told... if not made my relationship extremely strained. Ultimately I'm just replacing the negative feelings I feel from dysphoria with negativity from losing my relationships, support network, being alone and leaving myself in an uncertain financial situation.

What it also comes down to is that I don't think transitioning will fix my dysphoria, at least not fully.

The only thing HRT has dealt with so far was my hormonal dysphoria which has been a blessing but I'll take the short time I was on hormones as a chance to experience true calmness in my life and move on.

My body dysphoria is only going to get worse if I transition as I realize how much I don't look like a woman --- body-wise or face-wise or voice-wise. Sure hormones will help fat redistribution but it can do nothing about my male skeleton. It can do nothing about my male facial structure. It won't ever give me back a high pitched voice. I can try my voice but that feels so forced and fake. Ultimately everything I do towards "passing" just reminds me how I am a fake woman. To be accepted as a real woman by society I'd have to subject myself to surgeries to fix my face, my voice and my body.

And ultimately, my social dysphoria is never going to go away until I do reach that point of "passing" and I can be accepted as a woman. I know some of you have this "who gives a <not allowed>" attitude, but when my family tells me they see non-passing trans woman as freaks and they and my friends are embarrassed to be with me in public if I present as a woman I don't see the point in transitioning. What am I gaining by destroying all my relationships and becoming a social pariah? It's certainly not my mental health.

Wow, just when I think I have it bad, I read something like this and it makes me realize just how lucky I am to have always had such a neutral face and voice that some people saw (or even heard) a woman in me pre-transition. Then again, my hair is falling out and even with my T and DHT suppressed, I know I will never have beautiful hair. Life is not perfect this way, but it is the best I can do.

I am definitely risking a lot by transitioning. I could lose my money, my home, even my life, all at the hands of my frightfully intolerant father. As a result, I am still in the closet at home, and dying a little more inside every day I have to put on that act (46 more days... can I do it? :(). In the end, however, it is my life, and if I were to pretend to be a man for financial or safety reasons, I would never truly live. Nor would I ever get a job or make any friends, since I am unwilling to put myself out there in the wrong gender. From my perspective, I was always a "fake" man, pretending to identify with a gender that is antithetical to everything I stand for. The real 'me' is a woman, and being transgendered does not make her any less real in my eyes. I understand that some people will not accept me, but if that is how they feel, then they have no place in my life, either personally or professionally. Now, when a normally peaceful person like me can make such a strong statement, I know I have found my calling. I have been to the edge of a cliff before (a 200-foot high one, no less) and the chance to finally let the real 'me' shine through is the only thing preventing me from falling over the edge.

Back when I tried to present myself in the wrong gender, I had crippling mental illnesses - social anxiety, avoidance, depression, suicidal ideation, and OCD to make me worry non-stop about the other ones. For me personally, HRT is a miracle cure for those mental health issues that did not respond to conventional medications. Even my heartbeat and digestive issues responded positively to HRT. After 23 years in silent suffering, I finally found a way out. If someone could invent a pill that would make me happy as an ugly bald guy, I would not take it. Maybe in a year or two, I will be as beautiful on the outside as the person I see inside of me. If not, well at least I can say I tried.

You did get me thinking, though: If I had no hope of ever passing, would I still go through the process? After much thought, the answer is yes. The list of physical and psychological benefits is overwhelmingly long, even if I will still feel inferior to cis females in some ways.
Accepted i was transgender December 2008
Started HRT Summer 2014
Name Change Winter 2017
Never underestimate the power of estradiol or the people who have it.
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Nevara

Quote from: Steph34 on November 20, 2014, 08:52:58 AM
Wow, just when I think I have it bad, I read something like this and it makes me realize just how lucky I am to have always had such a neutral face and voice that some people saw (or even heard) a woman in me pre-transition.

Maybe I would've had the will power to go through with this if even one person in my life was able to see my feminine side, but every reaction I've gotten so far has been overwhelmingly negative.

I don't feel like going through life with everyone saying that my feelings aren't real.
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Luna Star

Quote from: Nevara on November 20, 2014, 02:30:29 PM
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false, probably not the answer you look for. But you found yourself and you are you. This is my oppinion. It's you vs the other's their vision.The thing is that the people who don't see that side of yours don't know you... And that's sad to me, will you live to be a full time actor for a fictional character in everyones life. Or will you push through and prove your existence?

Alas that is my view,the choice is yours
Luna, the poet and the digital artist.

Pleased to meet you ;)
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