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Still getting, er, aroused after almost two years...

Started by androgynouspainter26, November 20, 2014, 02:09:54 AM

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androgynouspainter26

Just wondering how long it took you all of for that to stop happening.  I'm sorta praying it stops, I'm too dysphoric to even kiss as a result. 
My gender problem isn't half as bad as society's.  Although mine is still pretty bad.
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kelly_aus

If it hasn't stopped by now, it's probably not going to. Hormones are not the magic libido killer that many people claim.. Nor does having a zero T level prevent erections..
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androgynouspainter26

Crap.  See, this is a problem because it's very literally preventing any contact between me and my partners.  And I don't have 20k...why the hell did I have to be the ONE trans girl I know who still has this problem!?!?!?!?!?!
My gender problem isn't half as bad as society's.  Although mine is still pretty bad.
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kelly_aus

Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on November 20, 2014, 02:39:28 AM
Crap.  See, this is a problem because it's very literally preventing any contact between me and my partners.  And I don't have 20k...why the hell did I have to be the ONE trans girl I know who still has this problem!?!?!?!?!?!

Makes me glad I'm not so worried about it...
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Railgun

From a more medical perspektive:
Well you could ask your doctor if there's a safe way (remember: safety comes first!) to incrase your prolactin levels. A high prolactin level can cause erectile dysfunction and loss of libido in men, since it partially counteracts dopamine (which causes sexual arousal), and causes breast growth in women during pregnancy, so it >>could<< also help temporarily with breast growth (no data on that). However a too high prolactin level can cause lactation and increases the risk of breast cancer, so consult your doctor.

The other possibility would be a dopamin-blocker, but that would lead to unforeseeable side effects since dopamin is far to important for numerous body functions. A few of the side effects would be probably loss of motivation, depression, partial loss of motoric abilities, parkinson, ADHD, RLS, and so on...
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Hikari

I hope this isn't like tmi but basically liquid stopped at a short time (within 2 months on bicalutamide) but like while erections don't randomly happen anymore I certainly maintain the capability to have them. Like even when I switched to spiro when I couldn't afford bicalutamide like, it still didn't change the situation. I will not have an erection unless I am aroused but, upon arousal it still happens. I generally tuck using this shapewesr thing so the erection is contained, it wouldn't really be noticeable no matter what I am wearing.

For some people an orcidectemy does the trick, but it doesn't for everyone.
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Nicolette

A lobotomy may help, although I haven't tried it myself.  :laugh: Having been on hrt, including AAs, for 19 years and then 13 months srs post-op, I can confirm that I still get aroused. Women get aroused. It's never been a problem.  I enjoy it, even.
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Steph34

Quote from: kelly_aus on November 20, 2014, 02:12:29 AM
If it hasn't stopped by now, it's probably not going to. Hormones are not the magic libido killer that many people claim.. Nor does having a zero T level prevent erections..

Since bringing my T level down in the summer, I have no desire at all, and I am so glad it is gone. It really interfered with my feminine self-expression and social interactions. I do still get excited around people, perhaps more so than before, but it is no longer sexual in nature. I find myself admiring beautiful strangers, but never wanting them.

Unfortunately, I still sometimes have "accidents" while half-asleep at night, like I am in this dreamlike state and then suddenly I will wake up with this awful release. Although they have been dry since my first month on a T blocker, they still happen involuntarily and seem to cause temporary masculinization for a whole week afterwards. This is very distressing to me. I am on two medications that have increased prolactin as a side effect, but it has not helped much. I am not sure what I can do, as these involuntary events at night are really holding me back physically. :(
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Missy~rmdlm

Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on November 20, 2014, 02:39:28 AM
Crap.  See, this is a problem because it's very literally preventing any contact between me and my partners.  And I don't have 20k...why the hell did I have to be the ONE trans girl I know who still has this problem!?!?!?!?!?!

I was sexually active right up to SRS. It's not that unusual. Though real voices are often drowned out.
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kelly_aus

Quote from: Missy~rmdlm on November 20, 2014, 09:17:21 AM
I was sexually active right up to SRS. It's not that unusual. Though real voices are often drowned out.

Indeed, we often are drowned out.. Or worse..
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Jill F

I had an orchi 4 months ago.  It didn't kill my libido nor my ability.  I don't get nearly as many spontaneous ones as before, but morning wood is not out of the question.
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KayXo

Quote from: Railgun on November 20, 2014, 04:28:27 AM
However a too high prolactin level can cause lactation and increases the risk of breast cancer, so consult your doctor.

A too high prolactin level causing breast cancer? First I hear of this. Any actual controlled studies confirm this unequivocally? Or suggest this might be the case? Because some women breastfeed for years, some get pregnant several times during their lives, prolactin levels are very high during these times and science has found that women who have more offspring (thus spend more time with high prolactin levels) have a lesser risk of breast cancer.

I am not a medical doctor, nor a scientist - opinions expressed by me on the subject of HRT are merely based on my own review of some of the scientific literature over the last decade or so, on anecdotal evidence from women in various discussion forums that I have come across, and my personal experience

On HRT since early 2004
Post-op since late 2005
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androgynouspainter26

My understanding is that prolactin increses the risk of liver damage and blood clots.
My gender problem isn't half as bad as society's.  Although mine is still pretty bad.
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Railgun

Quote from: KayXo on November 20, 2014, 05:04:53 PM
A too high prolactin level causing breast cancer? First I hear of this. Any actual controlled studies confirm this unequivocally? Or suggest this might be the case? Because some women breastfeed for years, some get pregnant several times during their lives, prolactin levels are very high during these times and science has found that women who have more offspring (thus spend more time with high prolactin levels) have a lesser risk of breast cancer.

Increasing the risk doesn't mean it is causing it - sorry for being unclear in my previous post. But if you get it prolactin will promote the development of tumor cells in the chests and can thus speed up cancer progression.

http://www.biochemia-medica.com/content/role-prolactin-human-breast-cancer
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23783576
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primrose

my libido has not dropped one bit and I've been on oestrogen for more than a year with T levels at around 1.1 which is quite low. My doctor told me that he has seen men with high T levels that have erection problems and there is no simple correlation between T levels and sex drive. Unfortunately, I am very much frustrated with my high libido at times but it's just what it is.
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KimSails

This thread is very surprising.  Both my libido and ability to get erect fell through the floor within the first three weeks of HRT (I've now been on HRT for three months).

Half-erections are the maximum possible . This is fine most of the time, but is a disappointing when my wife and I are *trying* -- knowing that SRS (and the ability to have sex again) is probably a couple years away or more.

In that sense, androgynouspainter, it seems that we are each frustrated by the opposite side of the same issue.

Kim
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Hideyoshi

Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on November 20, 2014, 02:39:28 AM
Crap.  See, this is a problem because it's very literally preventing any contact between me and my partners.  And I don't have 20k...why the hell did I have to be the ONE trans girl I know who still has this problem!?!?!?!?!?!

I still get aroused all the time, but I don't really get unwanted boners or anything. It's there if I want it to be there, but I don't consider it a bad thing for me since I don't absolutely hate my thing.

I think it's much more of a mental matter than a physical one.

I have noticed over the years that it seems the later one starts to transition, the more effective HRT is at killing libido and erections. My doctor told me that likely I'd get little to no changes in libido or erections, since I started younger when my sex drive was raging.

HRT for me more controlled my sex drive, where 2-3 times a week is plenty enough, when before, 3-4 times a day is what I would want.
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KayXo

Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on November 20, 2014, 09:30:29 PM
My understanding is that prolactin increses the risk of liver damage and blood clots.

But if that were the case, what to say of ciswomen who are pregnant or breastfeeding who have VERY high prolactin levels? They don't seem to be exposed to a greater risk of liver damage or blood clots than men.

Quote from: Railgun on November 21, 2014, 04:38:48 AM
Increasing the risk doesn't mean it is causing it - sorry for being unclear in my previous post. But if you get it prolactin will promote the development of tumor cells in the chests and can thus speed up cancer progression.

And yet, breast cancer appears to be less in those women who've spent more time being pregnant when prolactin levels increase significantly. Strange...

Quote from: primrose on November 21, 2014, 05:08:08 AM
my libido has not dropped one bit and I've been on oestrogen for more than a year with T levels at around 1.1 which is quite low.

I've found that estrogen actually increases my sex drive and if too low, my libido plummets. I'm post-op, my T levels are very low.

Quote from: Hideyoshi on November 21, 2014, 09:52:23 AM
HRT for me more controlled my sex drive, where 2-3 times a week is plenty enough, when before, 3-4 times a day is what I would want.

Same for me. It is much more under control but still there and can get quite intense...and emotional. :)
I am not a medical doctor, nor a scientist - opinions expressed by me on the subject of HRT are merely based on my own review of some of the scientific literature over the last decade or so, on anecdotal evidence from women in various discussion forums that I have come across, and my personal experience

On HRT since early 2004
Post-op since late 2005
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androgynouspainter26

Yes, actually, they are at a higher risk for blood clots!  Where are you getting your facts?  Over a prolonged period of time, it gets risky.
My gender problem isn't half as bad as society's.  Although mine is still pretty bad.
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Rachel

Perhaps a different anti-androgen would help. Perhaps your HRT doctor can recommend a different med.


At 3 weeks I had a considerable decrease the ability to have an erection. At 6 weeks it was near impossible and orgasm was very difficult. That has improved considerably but I have no spontaneous erections. in order to be with my wife I must have a very high concentration of Cialis and my erection is not full.

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