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Voice Feminization Surgery With Dr Haben

Started by Eva, November 14, 2014, 01:53:17 PM

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Eva

OK here is a quick recording I made on my way out the door prior to surgery... He's even a more dead now and that makes me very happy thinking I will never have to be haunted by hearing "him" anymore  ;D

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1OS7t8CfKoW

Here's a recording from about a month ago right before I made the decision to have the surgery... I put this one on here because this is really about as good as it ever got after nearly 11 months of near constant effort and 6 months of living very full time...

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0uMx3tDaH77

One more before natural/trained... Neither were any good for the way Im living now...

http://vocaroo.com/i/s09KFwxcqEi7

Here is a recording 7 days post op, it can only get better Id think!!!

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1DQzdJlwXhu

Im barely able to talk but I already cant get anywhere as deep as I could and I know it will just go higher in time  ;D I can hear a breathy quality and higher pitch and resonance I never heard before... BUT its still real bad and this is literally all I can do, I have really bad "surgical laryngitis"..
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Eva

OK getting better today ;D

Still very hoarse and definitely "surgical laryngitis"... In this recording Im not making an effort to raise my voice... I cant really raise or lower it much yet, this is about all I can do.... Right now Im just happy to be able to talk at all!!! The thing is though I CANT go lower and Im anticipating this ending being my absolute bottom end which is MUCH higher than my old voice... I used to be able to go down to 45hz!!! Id say in time its going to be very easy for me to stay in the female range permanently.... I am loving the sound occasionally when it seems to clear up and go higher, very fem ;D

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1BR7RMJv2wH
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Madison (kiara jamie)

i hope you recover well, i am very interested in hearing your fully healed results


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Eva

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ImagineKate

8 days post op doesn't sound that bad.

Your old "f-ing voice" was pretty low... I'm amazed at the difference, in a month or so it should be better?
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Eva

Hi Kate, thanks  ;D It had better be a lot better in a month its already been 8 days!!!

Its still REALLY weak right now and I could barely even record that... I did three hours of electrolysis today, my electro lady said "it definitely sounds different and there is a new quality to it thats not too bad".... My GF's all say "way better already".... I donno it sure doesnt last long, it pretty much gave out after all in all not much talking with electro woman :'(

Weird thing, NO PAIN at all but it sounds terrible :o

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Eva

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Eva

 I was told it will take up to two months to really start to sound anywhere near good, I have to try to remember that.... Im just VERY impatient  ::)  At least so far though it at least sounds natural and not really weird or way too high... I was really scared of that... I made another recording this morning and while its better its not much better... Maybe just a bit stronger and higher but still pretty monotone.... I wont bother updating this every day :) Im sure Id benefit from pro speech therapy but there is none to be found around here... Im hoping that in time as it improves and I become less self conscious about my voice (IT WAS TERRIBLE) it will all just kinda fall into place...

From what I gather though what this surgery will do for me is make the break into falsetto very smooth to even nonexistent... There are times Im surprising myself with the girly noises Im making, its done a very good thing in eliminating a lot of the deeper resonance... I definitely CANT go anywhere near as deep as it used to be and that right there is HUGE to me  ;D  I guess thats my biggest fear, that the low end will come back, still some there but different in a good way....  Im hoping this is the absolute bottom and the higher end opens up, OK I guess for only 12 days post op.... Cut off the low end and I will find a way to develop and increase the range of the high end in time... I can hear a similarity to my old trained voice, its close but there is ZERO effort to raise it, its there without trying at all... Id think as everything heals it will be very easy to get into the lower female range PERMANENTLY... Then I just have to work on inflection and prosody, "talk like a woman"  8)

http://vocaroo.com/i/s17cAkzwlzmZ
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ImagineKate

You're sounding a little better but the surgical laryngitis is taking its toll.

Based on the Yeson threads they don't sound "good" until about a month in.

If I were you I'd rest your voice as much as possible.
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ImagineKate

So it looks like your pre-op voice was pretty low - 85Hz. Now your post op voice is around 150Hz. That's about 65Hz and actually not bad of a raise, considering what you started with. With these kinds of surgeries it does go up over time so I'm curious to see how you do in a month! If you can get to at least 170-180Hz you would be pretty good.
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Eva

Thanks Kate, yes my old voice was very low... Im paranoid it will come back!!!!  In time though Im sure I will forget all about it though ;D

I did have "laser thinning" in addition to the web... I was told the laser thinning would further increase pitch and cut off the lower end... Also its supposed to make it a bit more "breathy", He said however that the recovery will be longer...

He said to expect 8 notes or about 80 hz increase...Add that to lets say 100 hz and thats OK, Im hoping to at least get to 200hz or higher though ;) I mean I could pretty comfortably do 180hz before and very comfortably 150-160 hz...

Yes I really should just shut the hell up for a while!!! LOL :)
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ImagineKate

So remind me again what Dr Haben's procedure is?

I know Dr Kim (Yeson) basically ties off 1/3 of the vocal cords. No laser or anything and it's all endoscopic.

What does Dr Haben do? You said he does laser thinning of the vocal cords but does he do something similar to Yeson as well?
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Eva

Well he tied off 1/3rd of the vocal cords, Im not sure if he does it exactly the same as Yeson but Id think the effect will be similar...

The laser thinning I was told will reduce the mass of the vocal cords... So they are shorter from the web and also thinner... Should raise the frequency they vibrate at... 
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ImagineKate

Awesome! Anyway get some rest, hope to hear your new voice in a month. Get some rest. Don't get too impatient, you don't want to end up like Patty and Selma from the Simpsons... lol.

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Alysinspace

As time goes on i must say your voice is sounding better and better!
Its hoarse now for sure but once your fully healed it seems like itll sound wonderful!!!!
Please keep us updated!  im about 2 hours away from upstate NY and id much rather go there then korea c :
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Eva

THANKS and YES Its getting better fast now!!! Its still hoarse and it still breaks up but now I keep hearing formerly masculine but now REALLY FEM grunts and groans that Im just LOVING ;D

I also keep surprising myself with my voice, I live alone and only really mutter to myself or my dog.... I forget all about it sometimes then mumble something and its like WOAH!!! I like that sound I just made :o

I'll do another recording tomorrow I think... Got some business I gotta do on the phone tomorrow, that should be an interesting test....

NO regrets aside from not doing it sooner so far ;D 8)
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Alysinspace

do keep us posted and i agree might wanna rest your voice as much as possible : )
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Eva

THANKS!!!! Seems its at the lower female range already 2 weeks post op ;D

I cant figure out PRATT, I use Speech Analyzer....
http://www-01.sil.org/computing/catalog/show_software.asp?id=57

And I cant figure all of that out either but it does work for me to check my pitch... in this recording Im still pretty monotone but the pitch seems centered in the 160-200 hz range and thats with ZERO effort to raise my voice 8)

Still pretty weak but its slowly getting stronger and it seems like the pitch is slowly increasing as well  ;D

The low end is GONE!!! Hopefully never to return and the higher end will continue to open up...

Before any of this I could do from low to high with just speech from 45-350hz... My cords were in pretty good shape despite many years of heavy smoking... I seem to be healing well and Im hoping to eventually have an effortless FO right around 200 hz or higher ;D

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0Fjew091Nb5
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ImagineKate

Praat is easy, Jenny has a nice tutorial in the sticky. Just open the file, zoom 10 seconds and show analyses with pitch and formants to see any resonance issues.
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