After some thought and reading through the forum topics, especially one called "how do you know you are a girl" i realized that maybe there are different personality types for transgender identity. I mean just like genetic females, not all girls feel the need to be all frilly and pretty all the time. Some just feel like women and just because they dont feel like being extremely feminine looking at all times doesnt mean that they are not truly transgender.  Wanting to be female I think is more of a feeling that we choose to express different ways. Whether it be by transitioning or dressing up occasionally to lighten our souls. But I think we should not forget that we should not limit ourselves to being constantly self centered. As girl I think most of us end up like blondes who are always worried about our looks. I personally feel like Im more of a messy nerdy girl. I want to be feminine but not all the time, i mean geese i think it would get tiresome!  But since im not transitioned i feel like the more girly i look the more feminine i feel.

so back to the point, i think that just because we feel transgendered doesnt mean we all feel it the same way.  some people embrace it differently than others, maybe its just a matter of lifestyle? but i thought this would make an interesting discussion, i hope this makes sense, what i think and what i actually end up writing aren't always the same thing .... so please reply with your opinion!   

bye and take care

Quote from: shy_lory on October 13, 2007, 02:24:34 AM
After some thought and reading through the forum topics, especially one called "how do you know you are a girl" i realized that maybe there are different personality types for transgender identity. I mean just like genetic females, not all girls feel the need to be all frilly and pretty all the time. Some just feel like women and just because they dont feel like being extremely feminine looking at all times doesnt mean that they are not truly transgender.  Wanting to be female I think is more of a feeling that we choose to express different ways. Whether it be by transitioning or dressing up occasionally to lighten our souls. But I think we should not forget that we should not limit ourselves to being constantly self centered. As girl I think most of us end up like blondes who are always worried about our looks. I personally feel like Im more of a messy nerdy girl. I want to be feminine but not all the time, i mean geese i think it would get tiresome!  But since im not transitioned i feel like the more girly i look the more feminine i feel.

so back to the point, i think that just because we feel transgendered doesnt mean we all feel it the same way.  some people embrace it differently than others, maybe its just a matter of lifestyle? but i thought this would make an interesting discussion, i hope this makes sense, what i think and what i actually end up writing aren't always the same thing .... so please reply with your opinion!   

bye and take care

What about those of us who are naturally blonde   Haha

Anyways though, back to your post, it's obvious I think that there are different types in a sense.  No one is ever exactly the same, so of course you can probably expect diversity in how people view themselves in terms of dealing with transsexualism  (did that sentence make sense?)

Everyone is different of course, so there are a lot of different paths to take to become happy.  Mainly, it should be what makes YOU happy.  Sure, it might not be right for someone else, but as long as your happy and content with yourself and your life I don't think it matters what anyone else thinks (of course there's an extent to that, but that's drifting way off subject).

Types as in levels? Yes there are.

Quote from: Butterfly on October 13, 2007, 11:56:18 AM
Types as in levels? Yes there are.

Types that have nothing to do with level?  Yes, there are.

Quote from: shy_lory on October 13, 2007, 02:24:34 AM
After some thought and reading through the forum topics, especially one called "how do you know you are a girl" i realized that maybe there are different personality types for transgender identity.

Take a peek at Standard Terms and Definitions 2

There are differences, but whether those differences are due to varied expressions of the same cause... or different causes creating different expressions... is hotly debated.

~Kate~

Re: Are there different types of transgender identity?

everything in life is categorized into "types & sub-types"

I've heard some people say there's different degrees of cross gender feelings. Some people like gay men and lesbians are happy showing their butch or femme side and feel no need for a sex change. Some trans people feel that they're really a man/woman but don't desire surgery. Some get on hormones but don't want surgery. Some people want the whole thing. So yeah, I think there's degrees.

Quote from: zombiesarepeaceful on October 14, 2007, 06:22:01 AM
I've heard some people say there's different degrees of cross gender feelings. Some people like gay men and lesbians are happy showing their butch or femme side and feel no need for a sex change. Some trans people feel that they're really a man/woman but don't desire surgery. Some get on hormones but don't want surgery. Some people want the whole thing. So yeah, I think there's degrees.

There are various types put under the transsexual banner. From the types I've seen at Gender Identity Clinics in the U.K....I don't indentify with any of those...

I haven't found many transsexual people I identify with and seem be isolated in my way of thinking, especially in the U.K where trannsexual seems to mean something else. American transsexual women seem to be more in tune with what they are doing and my way of thinking...

<<<<there are different personality types for transgender identity. I mean just like genetic females, not all girls feel the need to be all frilly and pretty all the time. Some just feel like women and just because they dont feel like being extremely feminine looking at all times doesnt mean that they are not truly transgender.  Wanting to be female I think is more of a feeling that we choose to express different ways.>>>>

       well going along what u said (sortov... i might be pushing that envelope), i could say that i am one of those different kinds of identity. I choose to be a lesbian feminist... even if some of the perks put me right back with men. its almost the polar opposite of the frilly-fashion-girl. the problem is, that i never really had much time to develop a bad male personality to erase(transitioned young) so nothing really comes naturally to me as far as..the manly way.  i never was a really grrrrrr kind of boy...really efeminate as a matter of fact. Apparently the good pills sortov tweaked my personality to what it is now. Innitially... i knew i was a girl... so i knew everything else would somehow just fall in place.
       ive taken a lot of critisism because of the unusual path i chose(from friends and family, as well as some tg's i kno(a stroke of  prejudice in the same community that i figure, needs to be united)... but i know is that this is how i pictured myself to be at the end of all of this. and even if it doesnt lay well with some of the gg lesbian feminist (janice raymond.. who thinks that people like me are not only "infiltrating  the womens movement and raping womens bodies"... but cuz im a lesbian...im also "stealing womens creative energy and soul" as i am not following the typical patriartical view of what a women is and does...(SORRY.. had to get that apparently old clip in there after my first reading in womens studies class).
       what im trying to say(must hav gone way off topic here)... is that we hav a right to be unusual if we care to describe ourselves as such(dont kno bout anybody else but i do for the moment). i dont want to be shackled down to become the  stereotypical transgender person( i kno thats not me). throuout this...i still know im completely female, nomatter what anybody else says!

    (please forgive me if i come off a little millitant and/or harsh...i beleive strongly in the choices that ive made. and just wanted to express my opinion on something i felt strongly about.  im also new here btw...and havent actually figured out the general forum enviroment here).
                                                            ~RAVEN~

There are as many "types" as there are people. We are all individuals.

If this journey is about anything it is about being ourselves and not what others expect of us.

Ann

Quote from: shy_lory on October 13, 2007, 02:24:34 AM
After some thought and reading through the forum topics, especially one called "how do you know you are a girl" i realized that maybe there are different personality types for transgender identity. I mean just like genetic females, not all girls feel the need to be all frilly and pretty all the time. Some just feel like women and just because they dont feel like being extremely feminine looking at all times doesnt mean that they are not truly transgender.  Wanting to be female I think is more of a feeling that we choose to express different ways. Whether it be by transitioning or dressing up occasionally to lighten our souls. But I think we should not forget that we should not limit ourselves to being constantly self centered. As girl I think most of us end up like blondes who are always worried about our looks. I personally feel like Im more of a messy nerdy girl. I want to be feminine but not all the time, i mean geese i think it would get tiresome!  But since im not transitioned i feel like the more girly i look the more feminine i feel.

so back to the point, i think that just because we feel transgendered doesnt mean we all feel it the same way.  some people embrace it differently than others, maybe its just a matter of lifestyle? but i thought this would make an interesting discussion, i hope this makes sense, what i think and what i actually end up writing aren't always the same thing .... so please reply with your opinion!   

bye and take care

We're pretty much the same you and I. I don't like this whole, "You go GIRL!" stuff...It sounds like a cheerleader on crack is attacking from Stepford. My aims n3rv3c4ndy btw. We seem to have the whole nerdy bit in common, but still feel gender-confused. Cool.

And I know what you mean with the lifestyle choice thing. I told mom I'd probably be a Lesbian if anything, and she couldn't understand. People still confuse Gender ID and Orientation of sexuality. I could like anything really, and I don't get why people look down on it if it doesn't harm people. Just cause I usually stay out of the Rat Race and choose to ignore my primitive side, IM looked at oddly.

Well this got more feedback than expected. Some of you pointed out different points like level and categories which makes sense. I guess Kierra's answer came closer to what I was asking.

Quoteaside from the "look", our own inherent behavior and subsequent wants over how we indeed need to be regarded by society I feel that TG individuals and GGs (genetic girls) in general otherwise have very little in common as one can never really replace the goals, preoccupations and attitudes that have been formed or the socialization that has usually already has taken place and I'm sure some (most?) of us would probably not have it any other way . . .

I also think the underlying motivations and life experiences behind "why" we feel the way we do are as varied as the TG individuals themselves and thus to compare one "validity" or "lifestyle" against another's is a very foolish undertaking indeed in the sense that it negates the very personalized expression of an unique personality that ultimately makes up us all, TG or not.

In other words the only thing that we really have in common with each other or GG's in general is the fact that we are all very different and it doesn't take much time here at Susans before you'll indeed figure that part out too. I visit here for fun and sometimes for answers to more practical, commonly shared problems but if your looking at the more basic questions like "why we behave or feel the way we do" then almost by definition you'll only find answers to those kind of questions solely within yourself without much help ever coming from someone else . . .

I guess just trying to figure out what distinguishes me from other tg girls.  But I think that this question is more centered to the essence of human nature. I mean humans are social but they also tend to form groups that they think they are most comfortable with. Like the tg community is obviously very diverse. Just about anyone I ask about the tg porn industry personally hates the tg porn stars because they make US look bad. But there is also alot of separation even on Susan's site. I have heard a few people say in the chat room that they hate the forums.  I mean ok this is off topic but there is obviously differences in transgender type. But these are the same differences we encounter among society. We hate each other.

I think after reading my original post that transgender identity is just who we wish to be, how we choose to act, and what sexuality we are most comfortable with superficially. However, inside I think we are all truly unique in our "gender identity".

... will add to this if i get time