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trying to understand myself, need input

Started by rachel89, December 10, 2014, 04:38:17 PM

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rachel89

I know this isn't gender therapy, but it keeps me from going off-the-walls crazy until I get there. I have realized a couple things about myself. The first is that I have always felt "safer" around females. I know this goes back as far as early childhood, where my parents have told me about how girls used to help me in pre-k with things like tying shoes etc. In my elementary years, some of closest friends were female (and some were male). in middle school, this was not the case partly because there was extreme pressure to conform to  masculine image. In high school, my friends were both male and female again and I would often sit with females at lunch. In college I had both male and female friends, but my closest friends were male,. I used to work in an ultra -masculine environment and I was very depressed and I did not know exactly why, considering I would benefit immensely if the company did rally well. I now work a blue-collar job with mostly female coworkers. This is complex for me. I feel less depressed while working in a more "feminine" environment, but shortly before I started was when I thought I might be trans. I couldn't vocalize it until around November. This is also when (September) my "small dysphorias" became something serious (I have never liked my voice that much and I have always really really hated my facial hair, and being "pre-transgender" was not the first time I tucked my genitalia, looked in the mirror and felt a little better, and not the first time I had ever worn articles of women's clothing). I'm wondering if this an early indicator of being transgender or just an indicator of being a human child.
The other thing is that before I realized I was trans. I had always desired a more effeminate appearance, while most men often desired  a strongly masculine appearance. In the past I would have phases where I would attempt to give myself a more effeminate appearance, (these go as far back as 5th grade and come and go and never worked out all that well because many of the attempts were half-hearted). While many men liked being muscular, I preferred having relatively slight build and wished I had a much much slighter build and was glad I turned out to be relatively short compared to most males. I take this as a possible sign of being trans, but I am looking for the input of others.
I am also a fairly quite shy person, who isn't that emotional. A lot of time I have trouble expressing my emotions through a male persona, but not as much trouble expressing myself when I don't put on the male persona, although I am not the most extroverted in the world even when I d not not have to present as male. One of the things that bothers me is that I see a lot of women are talkative and laugh a lot and are more expressive than I am. Sometimes I feel sad that I just can't be "one of the girls" and look like a very quiet unemotional man with some effeminate mannerisms, I want to be able to communicate and connect in a visible way like other women seem to do. I do not fit in with men as a man even though I look like one and have a lot of their mannerisms and ways of communicating. Socially, I fit in best in very nerdy settings, were masculinity and femininity do not matter much and I don't have so many hang-ups about being "shut in" or "not fitting in." I think that estrogen might help with this, but I'm not sure. I am looking for input and I am wondering if anyone else here has felt they are not "one the guys" but feel "shut in" around females because of of voice, language patterns, mannerisms,and expressiveness.


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rachel89

Sorry I think my post was a little long and not that well organized, but I am really emotional right now, and not in a good way.


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Shayla

That too me is normal and we are more emotion controlled so never give up on yourself. I too have moments where the innner self just wants too  get out and it drives me crazy. Hugs..
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trickyrikki

I also have the very same feelings. Going to the therapist really helps me. He has already confirmed what I've been feeling and that is i'm transgender. Were now talking about HRT. I wish you nothing but the best.

Hugs
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rachel89

So the "shut -in" feeling isn't just me, a lot of other pre-transition girls feel they should be able to "interface" with the world as a female as far as communications and expressiveness, but have a lot of trouble doing it with a male persona that comes off as quiet and unemotional?


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orangejuice

Quote from: rachel89 on December 10, 2014, 04:38:17 PM
I want to be able to communicate and connect in a visible way like other women seem to do. I do not fit in with men as a man even though I look like one and have a lot of their mannerisms and ways of communicating

Hi Rachel, just wanted to comment because I very much relate to this above, and my whole life has been in a very macho, sports dominated environment. Being a stereotypical 'guy' is the only way I know how to be on the outside even though I know on the inside I'm different to my friends. I've always felt so much more comfortable with the way females relate and respond to each other, but I've become so successful at the male mannerisms that outwardly no one suspects that. I've never even been able to be close to girls who have been in the same social circle as me because outwardly I'm just a normal guy. Its like my mannerisms are male, but my emotional responses are female. I'm always the one who picks up on something different or leads the conversation down another route instead of some dumb joke. But the way I express that is in a totally male way. So yea, I for one can totally relate to the way you feel and I'm sure others can too. I'm pretty new to this and I've only recently connected all these things to the fact that I might be transgender but talking to a therapist helps.
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