Well I'm just wondering. I am talking to a therapist currently. But I'm like really scared to talk about it and the way I see it is I have a lot of issues I'm trying to work through. I don't want to add coming out to my parents and actually admiting it yet. IF it turns out that I don't have any medical disorder, I will be left to my own devices. I've been looking up different herbs that enhance in attaining the female figure. Currently I'm not too far from it anyhow. I'm just taller and pear shaped so I don't have breasts and an overall really skinny. It would just be nice to try some supplements to fill out. I read about a few supplements that help with boosting up 2 cups and help with weight gain. I'm just curious how well it worked and what worked. Because currently I can't have hormonals since I'm not really comfortable in being open about it. I'm still trying to work out other stuff. Anyway what works and what doesn't?

Nothing works like HRT.

I went this route a few years ago, before I realized why or what I was truly doing. I believe it is against the tos to talk about it so not gonna say much, just that I had some success with it but was super expensive, def not the best way to go, definitely not safe.

I am mostly replying cuz of what you said though. You said you are not comfortable being open about it so can't have hormones but you wanna do herbals? What happens IF they work? I sound like my stupid therapist but what happens if you do feminize, get boobs and such? Can't admit it yet, can't come out. May not be able to hide it.

Currently I am going thru this as well. Been dealing with it for like a year now, like in therapy and stuff. I guess I feel I just gotta say, take your time and maybe slow down a bit? Try to work thru some of the other things before adding more onto your plate?

Yes it's true they can have an effect, but the amount needed is somewhat dangerous for the liver, for one licorice root (not the Lollies) used as an anti androgen is actually poisonous, then there's black cohosh which is bad for the liver in high doses.

Not that I make any claim that they work, because I've never used em, you could try bovine supplements, because I can definitely say they are much safer then some phytoestrogen, that will likely clog the hormone receptors, which may lead to some hormone deficiencys and they can n do compete with naturaly produced estrogens, so basically I'm saying there to dangerous in the high doses needed for significant feminization, in comparison to HRT, plus phytoestrogens are more like estriol not estradiol, estradiol is the one that you need to feminize.

Good luck.

Quote from: LivingTheDream on December 13, 2014, 02:29:43 AM
I went this route a few years ago, before I realized why or what I was truly doing. I believe it is against the tos to talk about it so not gonna say much, just that I had some success with it but was super expensive, def not the best way to go, definitely not safe.

I am mostly replying cuz of what you said though. You said you are not comfortable being open about it so can't have hormones but you wanna do herbals? What happens IF they work? I sound like my stupid therapist but what happens if you do feminize, get boobs and such? Can't admit it yet, can't come out. May not be able to hide it.

Currently I am going thru this as well. Been dealing with it for like a year now, like in therapy and stuff. I guess I feel I just gotta say, take your time and maybe slow down a bit? Try to work thru some of the other things before adding more onto your plate?

Well I kind of feel like I'm going to start puberty soon and I just want avoid it really. I don't feel like my parents will allow me to at least in some sense combat the changes I'm going to go through. I've already alized I don't want to go through a male puberty. But I'm too young to get hormones on my own.

Quote from: Clhoe G on December 13, 2014, 03:48:05 AM
Yes it's true they can have an effect, but the amount needed is somewhat dangerous for the liver, for one licorice root (not the Lollies) used as an anti androgen is actually poisonous, then there's black cohosh which is bad for the liver in high doses.

Not that I make any claim that they work, because I've never used em, you could try bovine supplements, because I can definitely say they are much safer then some phytoestrogen, that will likely clog the hormone receptors, which may lead to some hormone deficiencys and they can n do compete with naturaly produced estrogens, so basically I'm saying there to dangerous in the high doses needed for significant feminization, in comparison to HRT, plus phytoestrogens are more like estriol not estradiol, estradiol is the one that you need to feminize.

Good luck.

I heard of those two I didn't look at the side effects there. I've only looked fenugreek and saw palmetto and a few others on this website that gave some alternative and had some book published on it.

This is truly YMMV territory. I have a feminine build, and I've responded nicely to an herbal supplement in a modest dose that isn't expensive ($10/month). Someone who is headed for a medical transition (I am not) should probably seek out pharmaceutical HRT through medical professionals. I know being young and with your parents complicates matters.

Hugs, Devlyn

Quote from: Blondie14 on December 12, 2014, 11:29:22 PM
read about a few supplements that help with boosting up 2 cups and help with weight gain.

Sorry, that is impossible.

It is a big bad world out there, and some people are making big money on us, because of our desperate need to transition and they don't care if we end up with a damaged liver, because that is what probably happens. If you have a damaged liver, you can say regular HRT goodbye. I know one woman who had to wait 1 year extra because of her liver enzymes went through the roof due to herbals.

Quote from: Blondie14 on December 13, 2014, 10:27:39 AM
I've already alized I don't want to go through a male puberty. But I'm too young to get hormones on my own.

You can prevent puberty. But not with estrogen/testosterone, but with GnRH analogues.