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is the term transgender compatable with how you view yourself

Started by stephaniec, December 15, 2014, 06:35:42 PM

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stephaniec

The term really doesn't bother me, I think if the term were to become more positive and accepting it would benefit the reality of our state of being.
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Sephirah

I voted irrelevant because it's a term other people use about me. Not how I view myself. It's a label people attribute to me to try to understand what I'm going through. And it doesn't really matter to me, honestly. I know how I see myself and that takes priority in my mind. For me it's a description of a condition, not a person.
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peky

I am just a woman... I was a transwoman only when I was transitioning... I am done, I am a woman!
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Ataraxia

I view it more as compatible with the reality of how I am. It accurately describes the fact that despite being a woman, I was born male.
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KittyKat

I voted yes, I've found it the to be the term that I use most when describing what I'm going through to people.
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DanielleA

My view is that my being transgendered is really just a stepping stone into womanhood. I know technically I am a transgendered person but it is as if my being trans is like the cucoon stage before the butterfly.
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Kristyn74

My doc wrote his referral to my endo stating "doesn't identify as transgender"
Well...whatever, I'm Still the same person to him with a female partner and kids..I'm just me.going through life from a to b.
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katrinaw

Interesting thread... Trans means moving from something to something, so technically if we were born a genetic male, or female, but are wired for the opposite sex, then through the path to get to the right genetic physical state we chose, we are transgender'ing from one to the other.

So personally it's a description of a journey, not a person or sexual state... So I agree with Danielle and Peky... However at this point in time I am transgender'ing and therefore OK, will I be OK once there? ...Can't answer that yet, certainly won't deny the journey, but would prefer to be known as a women...
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Brenda E

Quote from: katrinaw on December 16, 2014, 07:25:39 AMSo personally it's a description of a journey, not a person or sexual state...

I'm the exact opposite; to me, it's a destination, not a journey.  No matter what, I'll always be transgender, even if (miraculously) I  end up passing.

It's also a destination I arrived at long ago when I realized - still physically 100% male - that there was something deeply wrong.  Consider it like getting off a plane in a foreign country for the first time.  I'm "there" the moment I land, still utterly lost, but there's so much to explore outside and many enjoyable years, even a lifetime, to be had settling in this new place.

I used to fret over not being a "real girl".  These days I don't care and happily identify as trans (provided it's in the context of a subset of women in general, and not a completely separate gender).  I'm getting to where I'm comfortable with my body, my therapist and the HRT have done wonders for my acceptance of who I am mentally, and being labelled as transgender (and using that label to describe myself) is something I'm proud of in a strange kind of way.  It's a personal struggle I'm proud to have overcome.  I don't think it'll detract too much from being part of the general "girl" club for all intents and purposes when it comes to living a normal female life - I really have no intention of spending my time trying to infiltrate catty groups of women who would happily shun me because they just can't accept me as female.  There's countless females (and males) who accept me for who I really am - female, just a slightly more unusual one - and it's those individuals who I'll spend my time making friends with.
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stephaniec

I guess for me it's mostly probably I think just the fact that I'm 63 years old and just don't give
two &&&&& about being seen as transgender. Maybe if I had been able to start the journey at 18 it might be different , but when the years pass by enough you tend not to give a $$$$ about how your viewed. I don't have to worry about family, husbands , wives , children , job or what ever so I'm in a different place then most.
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ImagineKate

I often use the comparison of my nationality to my gender, because I was not born physically as either one that I wanted.

I am a naturalized US citizen. This means that I had to take a test, submit myself to testing (background checks, medical etc) live in the USA for 30 months and swear an oath. Symbolically it's like transitioning. Where I am now I just prefer to be referred to as a US citizen. Naturalization is my past and how I got here. Citizenship is what I have and will have for life. But somehow deep at heart I have always admired American values and the way of life here. Now I get to live them, and for the most part I am happy. I cannot run for President, and while this makes me incomplete to me it does not make me a citizen any less than someone who was born here.

Same thing with being transgender. I am changing my hormones and undergoing real life experience. I may optionally have surgeries to bring my physical presentation in line with my gender. At the end of it I will be a woman. Actually I am one on the inside, I will be one on the outside.

So tansgender is a process for me. A transition is a phase. It may take a long time but at some point I have crossed the boundary. When that is, who knows. But at that point, being transgender will be my past.
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BunnyBee

I don't like the term because of the base of the word being gender. My issues were more biological and also somewhat with my role in life, gender really isn't a big deal for me.  I am whatever amt of masculinity and femininity I am, and it's fine.  Acting like a feminine male never brought any relief to dysphoria.

However, I get that this term is winning and, whatever, it's fine.

I do think of myself in terms of being a woman, and I do not want to be seen as a trans woman while society deems that a different category.  Though I do not have shame about my history.
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Tessa James

Transgender works for me now and now is all i really have.  The past is a memory and the future a dream ;)
Open, out and evolving queer trans person forever with HRT support since March 13, 2013
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Carrie Liz

The further along that I go in "transition," the more and more I realize that I never really changed or transitioned at all.

I'm still EXACTLY the same person. The only thing that "transitioned" is how others perceive me, and that I have a body that I don't (completely) hate anymore.

The term "transgender" to me somehow implies that I actually was the other gender in the first place, and that somehow I changed, when in reality I'm the same woman that I always was, it's just that now finally other people can see it too, and my body is more congruent with my pre-set mental programming, instead of everything constantly wrongfully forcing masculinity on me.
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Skeptoid

It's sort of like how I *have* OCD but am not *an OCD,* heheh.
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Foxglove

The term "transgender" is perfectly acceptable to me.  I view myself differently than a lot of people do.  Sometimes I say that I was born of "mixed gender"--i.e., physically male but psychologically/spiritually female.  Sometimes I describe myself as "a female soul born into a male body."

In a way I think the term "transgender" is almost meaningless because it means such different things to different people.  But I prefer to say "transgender" rather than "mixed gender", and if somebody wants to know what "transgender" means, I'll tell them what it means to me and will point out that it will mean something different to other people.

But all in all what I will insist on is that I'm a female soul, and my soul very much predominates over my body, which in a sense I regard as irrelevant to what I am.  Regardless of what my body was/is/will be, I will always be a female soul.
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katiej

I like the idea that being transgender is a journey towards womanhood.  It's a process to get the outside (and people's perceptions of me) to match my inside.

However, I do not like the term transsexual.  I know that's what I am technically speaking.  But it seems to have a connotation associated with sexuality, similar to homosexual, bisexual, etc.  And that's just not what this is about for me at all.  So I very much prefer the term transgender.
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Joanna Dark

No, not at all. If someone specifically asks me, like if I was being asked for ID, I would say I'm a transsexual. I think they'd get the woman part. I don't identify with, or very much like, transgender. It doesn't fit me at all. I don't really discuss it much.
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BunnyBee

Quote from: Skeptoid on December 16, 2014, 01:16:07 PM
It's sort of like how I *have* OCD but am not *an OCD,* heheh.

I'm with you on this.

And if I have to use a term I very much prefer trans woman to anything else.  Trans being an adjective, not a noun.
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katrinaw

Very close to you Stephanie in numerology... Hence why I need to take the journey as soon as possible... Probably when I get over the line, I may not give a stuff too  :laugh:
Feel my hormones are more or less right, can probably wing it in passing (except voice)... so its this coming year as long as I get an income stream  ;)

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