Quote from: Donna E on December 30, 2014, 12:54:18 AM
Hi Rachel,
Could you kindly explain what can be more objective than the many testimonials provided here from girls who have done their surgeries with for example Bellringer on the one hand and Chettawut on the other, especially given the numbers involved eg. there seems to be at least one person a week here doing surgery with Chettawut.I think we can reasonably imagine that if any of us had a significant complication it would be reported. As it happens, if you look at all the detailed threads on experiences with Chett you will see that loads of little problems are reported, down to lizards, ants and even cockroaches in hotel rooms so  what makes you believe that these same people would keep it to themselves if they had bigger problems, like the major haemorrges several people experienced with Bellringer earlier this year ?
Sorry, but statistics is actually a numbers game and the only objective tools we have are the many imputs we get from patients of the various surgeons who are out there. Given this, I really don't understand where you're coming from and find the last statement in your post above very insulting.

Were it not against the rules, i'd create a dummy account and complain about complications from a surgeon and then you could
watch how fast i get shut down by his fangirls..

Quote from: kelly_aus on December 30, 2014, 01:08:21 AM
Were it not against the rules, i'd create a dummy account and complain about complications from a surgeon and then you could
watch how fast i get shut down by his fangirls..

Kelly,
That is one very sweeping generalisation but I have noticed from some of your previous posts that this is one of your pet subjects. What you are trying to tell me is if that for example you had experienced a major life threathening haemmorhage with Chett, Suporn or whoever and you reported it here, you would be shut down by people like me? You have simply got to be kidding...   
Worse than that, you even seem to be suggesting that we are actively involved in some sort of plot to hide the terrible truth about these dangerous Thai surgeons we trusted with our bodies from unsuspecting members of this forum. I really don't understand where you are coming from with that.
Oh and BTW, I will almost certainly be going back to Chett for an aesthetic revision, something I already posted openly about...

I want people to think about their posts.

Surgeons and their clinics access this site. If you libel someone you are open to whatever lawsuit they may wish to bring.

That said, let us also be aware the GRS is major surgery. It is accompanied with many risks, all of which should be explained to you before you sign the consent form. If they have not been, you should not sign the consent form and leave that clinic ASAP. If you consent to surgery without being aware of the risks - well to be honest you are an idiot.

Surgical errors occur and they will occur stochastically, or deterministically if you have pre-existing health and life style issues.

So the more surgeries a competent well trained unit do, the more errors, in number, will occur - simple arithmetic, but percentage wise it should be lower than a unit who perform few procedures, due to experience.

I am aware of, and I think many members are aware of a few surgeons who I would not allow to spay my cat, never mind operate on me.

I do know that on occasion, if people post who their surgery will be with, a gentle pm may be sent with a 'please reconsider' included. Probably worthwhile thinking of.

There are now many surgeons in many countries, most are extremely good and I have heard great reports from girls who have been to them.
I am also aware of girls who have had horrible results from basically all of the leading surgeons in all parts of the world, but human nature is such that they do not wish to talk about it in public, and who can blame them?

Who wants to admit in public that they have been mutilated - even if by accident? A bit like a Mum declaring her baby is ugly, doesn't happen.

Which brings us back to the beginning of this post:

Be aware the GRS is major surgery. It is accompanied with many risks, they include: rectal perforation, with temporary/permanent colostomy required. Rectalvaginal fistula, bladder perforation, may lead to permanent incontinence, necrosis and loss of clitoris, urethra, nerve palsy, pulmonary embolism, DVT.


So please think through your decisions. It is only your decision which is important to you.


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Let me state up front that Dr. Reed in Miami has a track record of patients with post-operative problems and that a lot of girls will avoid him for that reason. I know one who went there because of cost, and yes, she had multiple complications. A single or a few patients with problems are one thing, but when one particular physician seems to have a stream of patients with complications over a longer period of time, I think it is fair to note that and it is fair for girls considering SRS to consider that when planning their surgeries. As far as western nations go, apparently all of the surgeons named herein are licensed to practice but as we all know, a license to practice may not equate to the best possible techniques and care.

Choose carefully. Price should not be the only consideration though understandably it is an important one for those of us without insurance coverage or national health care that includes trans surgeries.

Quote from: Donna E on December 30, 2014, 12:54:18 AM
Hi Rachel,
Could you kindly explain what can be more objective than the many testimonials provided here from girls who have done their surgeries with for example Bellringer on the one hand and Chettawut on the other, especially given the numbers involved eg. there seems to be at least one person a week here doing surgery with Chettawut.I think we can reasonably imagine that if any of us had a significant complication it would be reported. As it happens, if you look at all the detailed threads on experiences with Chett you will see that loads of little problems are reported, down to lizards, ants and even cockroaches in hotel rooms so  what makes you believe that these same people would keep it to themselves if they had bigger problems, like the major haemorrges several people experienced with Bellringer earlier this year ?
Sorry, but statistics is actually a numbers game and the only objective tools we have are the many imputs we get from patients of the various surgeons who are out there. Given this, I really don't understand where you're coming from and find the last statement in your post above very insulting.

I see me freaking out about the lizards have made an impression xD But in all seriousness. It is a rather serious procedure. Your job is to review and consider the best surgeons you can. There's ALWAYS risk of complications, usually minor, sometimes major, and people considering SRS need to accept that and deal with it if it comes.

Hell. People get serious complications from way less invasive procedures. Just to give you an example, my grandfather was admitted to a hospital recently and an experienced nurse messed up while inserting his IV. The vein on his hand exploded and he has a big black gash on the hand as we speak So there's always risk, but if it's worth it to you, you'll take it.

Just do your research, pick the surgeon you like best, 99,9% of the outcome is their doing, the remaining 00,01% is just simple bad/good luck, depending on the person.