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Started by neonglass, January 01, 2015, 03:51:52 PM

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neonglass

I read the thread from a 40 something wondering if she was too old.  Well I'm 65 and wondering.  I've known I was the wrong gender since I was 8 years old.  At that time transgender wasn't even a word.   I was amazed when I read of Christine Jorgensen's transformation.  I guess I always assumed that it was something only people with lots of money could do so I soldered on and practiced life as I was expected to do.  So here I am, near the end of my life looking at the very big mistake I've made.  Is it too late to correct it and would correcting it actually improve my life?  I have no clue, and having lied to myself for this long I am doubting that a change would do me any good.

Please give me some opinions.  As you can see I've fought with this dilemma for a very long time.  I've covered so many different aspects of the question I'm no longer sure what to even think of it on my own.  At this point I'm leaning towards doing nothing since that is the path of least resistance.
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Evienne

One thing I really dislike about society is that exact phrase "you're too old for ____." Well when the heck did there ever become a set limit of age as to when you can or can't do stuff. That's just really unfair. I think if you have the physical ability to do something that you really feel you want to do, then you should do it. Age shouldn't tell you that. I've read stories in the Ripley's books before of an 80 year old guy climbing mt. Everest. Society would tell you, "hey your 80 years old, don't climb mt Everest," but that guy said yes I can, and he did. Life doesn't have to have age limits on things. I really think you should do what you really feel you need to do inside. You shouldn't let other people tell you yes or no on your own life.
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Ms Grace

Hey Neonglass

Welcome to Susan's :) Great to have you here - looking forward to seeing you around the forum.

The simple answer is that you are never too old. This is a very common question, and it usually crosses most people's minds whether they're 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70...

I had a chance to transition when I was in my twenties but it imploded, this time I'm in my late 40s and for at least 15 years prior to that I kept telling myself I was too old, that it would never work - but it got to a point where I decided that didn't matter that it was "transition or bust". Turns out I wasn't too old. And neither are you.

The best thing to do is talk to a counsellor or therapist and work out how you want to proceed. Getting as much support as you need is crucial. As for transition improving your life that is only something you can determine once you are on the other side. It won't be a cure all for all that ails you but it sure can have a positive effect in gender dysphoria.

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stephaniec

Well, I'm 63 and started puberty 14 months ago. Just using the last of my allotment for the best use possible.
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Devlyn

Hi Neonglass, welcome to Susan's Place! If you're still on the right side of the grass it's a fine time to start! See you around the site!

Hugs, Devlyn
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Alex2020T

Wholeheartedly agree with everything that has been said so far. You owe it to yourself to at least explore the possibility of transitioning - a therapist would be a good start. But in short, you're never to old to transition. It may well even bring you a great deal of happiness! Best wishes.
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ImagineKate

I would say about 150 is too old. But you never know. ;)
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MugwortPsychonaut

From what I've heard, don't people who are old tend to transition really well, anyway? Young people and old people can look very androgynous, so passing is usually easy.

I mean, that's how I think it works. So yes, you can transition beautifully!
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JoanneB

Like Miss Grace I twice experimented with transitioning in my early twenties. Twice opted for "Normal(ish)". Unlike her I waited until I was 52 to take on the trans beast for real. I had to, every one of my life's major disasters was because of how I was NOT handling being trans. Going to my first ever TG Support group meeting changed my life.

An amazing part of the process to date is how much better I feel about being me and the life I had. I am slowly becoming one whole, health, happy person. Not all these seperate and one buried person. BTW - Six years later I still live as a male.

Now, if you look around you see a lot of "Wow is me, my life is over. I am already 16,17,18,etc., and I haven't transitioned, and never can. I'm too old now".
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Rachel

I am 52 and at group there is a girl that is 65, she is doing very well.
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Jessika

I'm about to turn 48 and just started my transition.
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JLT1

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Tysilio

I'm 62, and I started transitioning a bit over a year ago. It's the best thing I ever did, and it's going fine. It does feel sort of weird to be going through a second puberty at this age (zits??! ), but I'm now read as male 99% of the time when I'm out and about, and it's just very... relaxing. For the first time in my life, I'm comfortable in my skin.

Don't think of yourself as near the end of your life -- your real life might be just beginning. I'd say you owe it to yourself to explore the possibility of transitioning, and Susan's is a great place to start. Welcome.
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ElizMarie

I'm 61 and trying to figure this out, too.  No, it's not too late!  Would you rather die true to yourself or die lying to yourself? 

Don't get me wrong, transition (especially as we get older) isn't for everyone.  First, you'll always be clocked as a "trans-woman".  Even with surgery, IMHO, you'll always have features that will mark you as male in a previous life.  Do you have family? Will they accept you?  If not, will it kill you emotionally should you leave them (to be a woman)? 

Lastly, there are lots of options in dealing with dysphoria.  You can crossdress occasionally, you can take a light dose of hormones, or you can  fully transition. I've begun working with a gender therapist to figure out which one of these (or a combination) that I'll have to do.  I would rather try to work through this than die by my own hand with depression and despondency.

Marie
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islandgirl

Like Marie, I m 61 and just starting out on this path (came out to my wife end of Oct 14). I am seeing a counsellor and looking at the exact questions Marie has listed! Marie - I read that post and went Wow - does she know me!

It appears many of us are in a similar position.
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Cindy Stephens

I am 63, had my facial hair removed (slowly) starting at 50.  Went on Hrt at about 55.  My wife is fine with it, knew before we married 30 years ago.  Work - not so much.   I have done those things to appease the dysphoria Gods without being too obvious.  I am about to retire and am gearing up to push the boundaries a little more, maybe all the way.  An article in the news forum had a girl in England getting GRS at 81!  Do we get a Senior discount?  You have lots of time.
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mrs izzy

Welcome Neoglass to Susan's family

To answer your question with a question

Is it ever to old to find happiness?

Answer that and that's the answer.

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Stephanie2

Welcome to the forum, Neonglass! I am turning 65, didn't think I would even reach that age, since my father died young at 55, but it is what it is. I am just happy that I have had significant breast growth over the last few years. Even though the possibility of having the full surgery is very slim (the money), the "girls" will always be with me for the rest of my life. And at least that is something that I cherish!
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Foxglove

Quote from: neonglass on January 01, 2015, 03:51:52 PM
So here I am, near the end of my life looking at the very big mistake I've made.  Is it too late to correct it and would correcting it actually improve my life?  I have no clue, and having lied to myself for this long I am doubting that a change would do me any good.

Hi, Neonglass!  Your post resonates with me since my life history is so much like yours.  I've been asking myself the same questions for quite some time now.

I've been out full-time for 2 years now, and they've easily been the happiest 2 years of my life.  Like you, I'm wishing I'd started this process many years ago.  If I had, things would certainly be different today.

E.g., I still haven't done electrolysis.  I don't have the money.  Still haven't started HRT.  I've been in good health all my life, have never needed to take any sort of medicine on a constant basis.  I hesitate to do it now.  It's very easy for people to say, "You're never too old!"  But the fact is that when you're 60+, you simply aren't up for things that you could have handled easily enough in your youth.  And the fact is that hormones can have unwanted effects.  If they did so with me, would I be physically up to the challenge?  I'm not at all sure.  And as for GCS, the thought that at my age I should undergo something like that that I never faced when I was young--well, it absolutely terrifies me.

Quote from: neonglass on January 01, 2015, 03:51:52 PM
Please give me some opinions.  As you can see I've fought with this dilemma for a very long time.  I've covered so many different aspects of the question I'm no longer sure what to even think of it on my own.  At this point I'm leaning towards doing nothing since that is the path of least resistance.

You call it "the path of least resistance".  To my mind, it may be that what I have now is the best I'm going to get.  If I go forward, I think there's a real risk that I might make things worse for myself, that I might lose what I've gained with no positive return to show for it.

It's a fact that there are lots of over-60's who have fully transitioned or are in the process of doing so.  If they're clear in their minds that that's what they need to do, then they're absolutely right to do so.

But for someone like me who's full of doubts--I decided a long time ago that I wouldn't take the next step until my heart clearly told me it was right to do so.  So far it hasn't done that.  So I still hesitate, and I don't regret this hesitation.  I think it makes sense as long as you're not completely sure what you need to do.

Neonglass, if you'd like to PM me some time (I think you need ten posts before you can do that), I'd look forward to chatting with you.  It sounds to me like the two of us are in much the same circumstances.  Perhaps we could both benefit by some mutual feedback.  Perhaps not.  But if you're interested, don't hesitate to contact me when you can.

Best wishes,
Foxglove
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neonglass

It's been a while since I have logged onto here so I've just read everybody's replies to my initial post.  A very large Thank You to everybody for all of the encouraging comments and suggestions.  They have given me a lot to think about.  They have lead me to a couple of questions.  There were several suggestions about seeing a councilor.  Having had bad memories of dealing with them back in the 1950's when I was looked at as weird by them I'm a bit reluctant to talk to one now.  Is there an organization that can recommend therapists or councilors for TS/TV issues?  I live a a somewhat major city so I'm hoping there would be someone local.  My other question is of a more practical nature.  How does one learn how to do the outward transformation?  Are there classes or workshops, or do you just muddle along and figure out your mistakes as you go?
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