i know i'm posting a lot lately , so many things going on in my life and i really need to talk,ok it's an other long conversation with my family cause i already come out from almost a week! so they said let's pretend you are right and you are in the wrong body what you will win if you take t and be a man ? nothing ,you will never be able to have a family, god created f and m so they marry and make children that's the purpose and i dont see any purpose to live a lie nothing will change its the same with being a lesbian no purpose ! i told them about adopting  kids so they dont think i'm selfish! they said i will make the kid sad wich life he will have ? the kids will tell him/her ur dad is a girl!! also that i wont be able to raise him as a man if he is a boy cause im not a bio man and he need a bio man and if she is a girl i can't do that cause im not a female too! i dont know why i need to have kids i dont even want that!! and they think life its always about a family, i was sure before that i will be happy without adopting or anything but they always broke me and telling me its impossible to be happy this way!and that i will die alone and dont find no one to take care of me ! i kinda start to believe them and believe that there is no happiness if i dont have a family and kids..and i start to fear the future and be lonly as they said,i always get so angry after this long conversations and the suicidal thoughts back in my head again a part of me want to live and be happy but the other bigger side just want to die and dissapeare forever i dont think i even have a life...... today morning i was praying so hard so god stop this heart and create me again in the right body i should be in ...i'm sorry if i post a lot i just needed to talk and this is the only place in the world i'm welcomed in actually this is my home..

You are cool on posting as much as you need man.

You do what you feel is needed.

Sorry to say there is no rule book to say they are right you are wrong.

Forget about what another book says, that one is social and your GD is nature.

You can try to control social but nature happens as it happens.

So God has nothing to do wit who you are. You are a product of nature and go by those rules of life.

Everything and anything is up for grabs in fetal development.

Everyone is too worried about what the Jones think over the pain and *ell there own flesh and blood feels.

Move on and let them come to you not you cater to there twisted outlook of what is right or wrong.

Hugs, live, love and be happy.

I highly recommend reading, among others, Everett Maroon's book, "Bumbling Into Body Hair" or checking out his blog: http://transplantportation.com/ He has two kids and often posts about parenting, etc.

Don't let anyone tell you that you can't have the life you want!

It's okay to post a lot (re: my rambling posts [emoji6]).   You are clearly in a lot of pain and we've all been there with family reactions.   My parents were so against it they wanted me to believe in reincarnation so I would just be happy with being a woman in the next life!

It's taken my dad 20 years to realize all that matters is to be happy.  I hope it doesn't take your family that long, but that is the key, your happiness.  Remind them that continuing on the path of denial and repression will not help you and is the reason for your deep depression.   

Peace and good luck.

Well, they entertained that you were right for zero seconds, didn't they? "Lets assume that you're right, and you go live a lie!" lol.

It's not a matter of reason, it isn't as if you just decided on this one day, and can be given reasons to see that it's a bad idea. As if they're all men and women because they rationally decided on it.

Here are a couple quotes: "We do not by any means think it desirable that the kingdom of righteousness and peace should be established on earth (because under any circumstances it would be the kingdom of the profoundest mediocrity and Chinaism); we rejoice in all men, who like ourselves love danger, war and adventure, who do not make compromises, nor let themselves be captured, conciliated and stunted; we count ourselves among the conquerors; we ponder over the need of a new order of things, even of a new slavery for every strengthening and elevation of the type "man" also involves a new form of slavery." - Nietzsche

"No revolution can ever succeed as a factor of liberation unless the MEANS used to further it be identical in spirit and tendency with the PURPOSES to be achieved. Revolution is the negation of the existing, a violent protest against man's inhumanity to man with all the thousand and one slaveries it involves. It is the destroyer of dominant values upon which a complex system of injustice, oppression, and wrong has been built up by ignorance and brutality. It is the herald of NEW VALUES, ushering in a transformation of the basic relations of man to man, and of man to society." - Emma Goldman.

We're at war.