Hmmm, what timing, I just ordered 8 more skirts from AE today, and yesterday I was trying to figure out if today would be the day for wearing a skirt to town for the first time (in hometown).  At this exact moment I'm kinda teetering on the edge.  My transition as can be seen is not that advanced yet so I have been content with women's jeans/tops and makeup, sooooooooooooo we'll see.

Cold up here by the Canadian boarder so thigh high socks and tights will make it all doable in comfort.

For anyone interested American Eagle website in the online only section has what they call the AEO A-line Maxi Skirt (black only), I already have one and they are soooofffftttt, and discounted way way down, wont last though.    Dani

I am curious. I voted "mainly pants" and it says 34% did so too. But all the posts here are about those wearing skirts or 50:50 or at least whenever possible. Only one said she wears mostly pants.

So I am almost alone then despite the 34%?

I wear pants about 98% of the time. I have used dresses for medieval festivals as the only time in the last few years. Last summer and fall I actually did wear one of the two skirts I do own despite of that for a handful of days, which is totally new for me - and it was noticed by folks at work . I am not sure if this will become a habit though. I think most skirts do not look good on me at all and I feel a bit weird in them.

Guilty.......I did not see the poll, went back and voted mainly pants, but skirts/ dresses are in my very near future.  I seem to be in this ebb and flow right now, one moment I'm all emboldended, confident, and ready to charge right towards the closet, then I think about it for a lttle too long and sink my own boat  .  I went to my girlfriends house last night and told her my plans for today and she was all smiles.  I guess I could call and she would probably drive over and not let me squirm out of it  , ah aint life interesting.   Dani

Quote from: anjaq on January 09, 2015, 04:48:36 PM
I am curious. I voted "mainly pants" and it says 34% did so too. But all the posts here are about those wearing skirts or 50:50 or at least whenever possible. Only one said she wears mostly pants.

So I am almost alone then despite the 34%?

I wear pants about 98% of the time. I have used dresses for medieval festivals as the only time in the last few years. Last summer and fall I actually did wear one of the two skirts I do own despite of that for a handful of days, which is totally new for me - and it was noticed by folks at work . I am not sure if this will become a habit though. I think most skirts do not look good on me at all and I feel a bit weird in them.

your not alone I do not like dresses/skirts. I prefer skinny jeans over anything

I think I understand - those who voted "mainly pants" are those who for some reason do "not yet" wear mostly skirts - because they are not yet coming out or the transition has not gone far enough in their minds yet?

But I know i am a minority - Most Transwomen I met just hate pants and love skirts - more so than most other women I met, probably its just that trauma from being forced into them for so long. Maybe because I transitioned relatively young and in an age group in which few of the other girls wore dresses or skirts, I am not that traumatized

Yet still, I should try it - apparently, I am told, it actually can look good on me - but only like 5% of the skirt styles available maybe. Most are just too tight and then look ugly - or they are too short.

Also I hate that mostly I need to wear pantyhose or nylons under that and I dislike those too. But without them , skirts would usually be too cold about 80% of the time, and I have that stupid chafing problem.

Quote from: anjaq on January 10, 2015, 05:19:35 AM
I think I understand - those who voted "mainly pants" are those who for some reason do "not yet" wear mostly skirts - because they are not yet coming out or the transition has not gone far enough in their minds yet?

There's absolutely no reason to assume this.  Those who wear mainly pants will have their reasons.  If we want to know their reasons, we can simply ask them rather than assuming that we can know those reasons better than they do.

What this poll is showing is that gender expression among transwomen varies a lot.  No surprise there.  It varies a lot in the cis community, it will vary a lot in the trans community.  The main reason that people are different is simply that people are different.

Quote from: anjaq on January 10, 2015, 05:19:35 AM
But I know i am a minority - Most Transwomen I met just hate pants and love skirts - more so than most other women I met . . .

"Most transwomen you've met".  And that would also be true of most transwomen I've met.  But our personal acquaintances can be atypical.  That's precisely why we do polls--so that we find out what the real situation is, as opposed to each individual's particular situation, which could be atypical.  So far this poll shows that there are quite a few T-girls who wear mainly skirts and dresses--more than I expected.  But note the very even split at this point among the three categories.  The notion that most T-girls favour skirts and dresses is mistaken. . .

Quote from: anjaq on January 10, 2015, 05:19:35 AM
. . . probably its just that trauma from being forced into them for so long. Maybe because I transitioned relatively young and in an age group in which few of the other girls wore dresses or skirts, I am not that traumatized

. . .which means that there's no point in trying to explain a fact that isn't actually a fact.  I started this poll because I was curious to know what the situation was.  The results have surprised me to a certain extent, but there's no harm in a bit of surprise, is there?

Yes - I was a bit surprised that a thrid said they wear mostly pants, just like me, but only 2 besides me have written that they do. Maybe another category would have been good - "wear pants for now but would like to change to mainly skirts as soon as it is possible"

Quote from: anjaq on January 10, 2015, 10:38:22 AM
Yes - I was a bit surprised that a thrid said they wear mostly pants, just like me, but only 2 besides me have written that they do.

Yes, this is something I've noticed, too.  Those who've said they wear skirts have commented on the subject.  Those who've said they wear pants generally have not.  I draw no conclusions from that.

Quote from: anjaq on January 10, 2015, 10:38:22 AM
Maybe another category would have been good - "wear pants for now but would like to change to mainly skirts as soon as it is possible"

But this would be to prejudice the poll.  It would be working on the underlying assumption that those who wear pants want to switch over to skirts.  Now some people have in fact said so.  But there's no reason to assume that all those wearing pants want to do so.  If they do, they can say so.  If they say nothing, then perhaps the reason is that they're happy in pants and plan to continue to wear them.

I think we're coming perilously close to suggesting here that wearing skirts is more valid for a T-girl than wearing pants.  I am certainly not going to suggest that myself--mainly because I don't even begin to think that it's true.  I myself now wear skirts.  But I've often wondered if the day will come when I get tired of them and switch over to pants.  I wouldn't be any less of a T-girl if I did.  Perhaps I should have added another category to the poll: "Wear skirts for now but undoubtedly will eventually switch over to pants."

(And maybe we should have yet another category: "Wear skirts and pants 50-50 now, but someday will switch over to pants and skirts.")

Quote from: anjaq on January 10, 2015, 10:38:22 AM
Yes - I was a bit surprised that a thrid said they wear mostly pants, just like me, but only 2 besides me have written that they do. Maybe another category would have been good - "wear pants for now but would like to change to mainly skirts as soon as it is possible"

I mostly wear and prefer pants as well. Occasionally I'll wear a dress or a maxi-skirt, but I prefer skinny jeans and leggings. I do love leggings with a long top that's almost a dress. Most day's me go to is skinny jeans, they're practical, look good and can be worn on most occasions.

Ah well, ok , forget I asked. If making any suggestions is already playing with prejudices and some people feel attacked by such, I better dont assume or suggest anything. So be it.

Quote from: anjaq on January 10, 2015, 03:36:14 PM
Ah well, ok , forget I asked. If making any suggestions is already playing with prejudices and some people feel attacked by such, I better dont assume or suggest anything. So be it.

Well, it's just that if we're going to make assumptions about each other, everybody can play that game.  I once heard a suggestion that those of us who like skirts are misogynist in a way: we think you can't be a proper woman unless you wear skirts.  Now that's not why I wear them, and I don't know of anybody else who wears them for that reason.  I wear them because I like them, because they're me.  I say nothing about what a "proper woman" should wear.  It's why I don't like people making assumptions about me.  If they want to know why I'm doing something, I'd prefer it if they'd just ask me.

I see nothing bad with making assumptions and revoking them if they are wrong. I am not judging on them. If one is judgemental about thos things, thats another thing. I dont care if someone likes skirts or pants. I like pants but maybe I will discover skirts one day, who knows. Others like skirts. What I find remarkable is that there are quite a few who would not touch pants with a long pole because they hate them so much because of the previous way of life. I understand that trauma - still it is remarkable... - the weird thiing in my memory is that before I knew what is going on with me, I was imagining myself as a girl when I was a teen and in that time I actually thought if the magic fairy makes me right, I would wear dresses and skirts - but later I lost that

My attire has changed as I have evolved during this fabulous transition.  Now in my third year out, I wear what feels good or seems appropriate to me for the event.  When I first came out it was skirts, scorts or dresses only for 8+ months.  I was so ready to dump any masculine item and those drab slouchy jeans.  But then I was silly too.  I would wear skirts and dresses when out in the garden or working heavy equipment.  There were a few casualties, of course, and who wants to ruin good leggings or a skirt?  It helps that I have developed a bit of a butt, finally, and i love all sorts of girly outfits.  And since I still do farm and trail work it is good that i didn't just trash all those heavy boots and work clothes.  It is easier to just slip into some jeans than find the right and coordinated outfit with skirt and leggings eh?  I am totally happy to be able to find colorful outfits with fun accents and textures.  Shopping is a joy--especially when I find a fit!

There is nothing about clothing that changes our intrinsic gender identity.  I remain transgender no matter what i wear or what i look like and i doubt my looks will ever match how good i feel about being free to just be me.  My heart sings and my body is more me than ever before.  We get so many choices and then we could be wearing burkas so count your lucky stars for having options.

Right - for some occasions skirts are just not practical. For me that is most of the occasions - Also I am - to my discontent - not a happy shopper. I hate trying to find clothes. I hate spending a half day in the shops just to find that everything is either ugly on me or not my XXXL size. At least shopping with friends helps to convince me that not all that I thought would for sure be ugly and not even try is all that bad. Still - in the end I spend half a day looking mostly ugly in the mirror in my eyes just to get 1 or 2 pieces...

Mostly skirts, dresses and shorts in summer.  In winter its mostly a dress with leggings or thick tights. (I have a great pair of skin tight leather looking  leggings)  I rarely wear pants, but do have two nice pairs of women's straight leg jeans. These days I look much better in a skirt or dress.  Also in Australia, summer cries out for a soft sleeveless  summer swing or A line dress, whereas in winter its mostly skirtsand jumpers for me. I also like to wear boots (Cindy I finally found a pair to fit me!!

I primarily wear skirts, dresses and shorts.  I'm not opposed to wearing jeans or pants, but between my weight loss and HRT, my body is changing shape rather rapidly.  I'm finding that jeans only fit well for a short period of time before my body changes and I have to find a different pair. 

Ah yes - if I would loose some weight, who knows what I would wear - for some reason I dont feel well in Skirts - I feel they are a mismatch somehow - maybe I think of myself as too masculine still...

Quote from: anjaq on January 10, 2015, 05:19:35 AM
But without them , skirts would usually be too cold about 80% of the time, and I have that stupid chafing problem.

Skirts are not so much cold. A long skirt can warm your legs more than jeans, because it can contain more insulated air. Because of this I prefer a long winter jacket.

One disadvantage of wearing skirt here is when sitting on the floor. Here in my country, we should sit on the floor in most restaurants, and I sometimes wear leggings instead of very long socks. I mostly wear thigh-high socks under a skirt in winter.



BTW, my wife seldom wear skirts.

barbie~~

Quote from: anjaq on January 10, 2015, 04:42:46 PM
I see nothing bad with making assumptions and revoking them if they are wrong. I am not judging on them.

The problem with assumptions is that people don't in fact tend to revoke them if they're wrong.  This is precisely the problem that we transpeople have.  Our enemies make assumptions about us--and then you try and get them to change their minds.  E.g., there are plenty of people who insist that "->-bleeped-<- (like homosexuality) is a life-style choice."  It doesn't matter how many transpeople tell them, "No, I didn't choose to be trans," they're not going to change their minds.

Now there's nothing wrong with asking questions about people's behaviour.  "I wonder if such-and-such group of people does such-and-such thing for such-and-such reason." No harm in asking a question like that--provided that it is a question and that you're willing to get the available evidence before you start drawing any conclusions, and also provided that you're willing not to draw any conclusions at all if the available evidence doesn't warrant any.

It may be that you and I are having problems with semantics here.  If what you mean by an "assumption" is a notion that something might be true, and if you're willing to look at the evidence and abandon the notion if it turns out not to be true, then that's what I would call a "question" or perhaps a "theory".  But usually what's meant by an "assumption" is just that--assuming that something's true even if you don't have any evidence to back it up.  And as a transperson I don't much like assumptions because assumptions hurt us very badly.  It was certain assumptions that killed Leelah Alcorn.

I know that you personally aren't judging here.  I'm not saying that you are.  But people quite often use their assumptions to judge others.  Another reason I don't like them.

Barbie, with that amazingly long legs, you almost have to wear those short skirts to show them

Fox, yes - I meant assumptions as something I assume for now, but it is more a question. Here, I asked myself how the mismatch came between the 1/3 for each category and the overwhelming majority of posts describing mainly one of the categories. There were some posts that I interpreted as probably having clicked on the "mainly pants" button, but that wrote they only wear pants because they are "not ready" or "not (fully) transitioned" yet. What I thought of was, that this is not really what the question was probably meant to ask. I guess the question aimed at what people who are post transition do wear and/or what they actually LIKE to wear, not if for reasons of not having come out yet or other such reasons not being able to wear what they like.