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Transitioning in your Sixties (60's) ?

Started by Emily R, January 12, 2015, 01:42:24 PM

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Emily R

Hi all,

I am not trying to copy the other subject, but I have almost the same questions and how they apply to a 61 Y.O. MTF?

I just started reading the subject here about transitioning in your 30's and I since I have my first appointment with my gender therapist next week, and I felt that I too have issues and questions about how it will affect my health. 

AFAIK Estrogen is usually not given to female CIS in their 60's due to possible complications, but of course they have had a full lifetime of Estrogen exposure where as I would just be starting.  Other concern is osteoporosis since I would like to take a low dose of HRT to extend the time of transitioning.  Also at 61, most of us are seeing both a cardiologist (to control blood Pressure) as well as an Urologist (enlarged prostrate) and taking appropriate medications that could interfere or overlap with the spiro and estrogen.  I assume that the endo will coordinate all of the medications, but I would like for the other doctors to continue monitoring me and to agree on medications prescribed.   Will the endo just change the prescriptions, or will he/she coordinate with the other doctors?  Any personal experiences?

How does your body adapt to all of the hormonal changes?  My body is kind of slim as I am 6'0 tall and 175 pounds and trying to lose approximately 15 pound prior to starting HRT as to that the new fat will get deposited on the right spots (breasts, upper thighs, hips and behind). I am kind of skinny and from what I have read, the Estrogen opens your appetite making you gain weight will these extra pound end up on the right feminine desired locations and not on or my belly?

Are there any specific questions that I should ask the Gender Therapist when I meet her?

I know that there are too many questions to ask, but I have read as much as I can here on Susans' about the subjects, but some of the replies that I found are a few years old and the may not apply any more.

Please feel free to add any issues regarding transitioning in your 60's as I am afraid that I just scratched the surface and I myself will have more questions.

Thank you for looking and hopefully participating.

Emily
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stephaniec

I think the more fundamental question should be what is my reason for transitioning. Being 60 the reality is that there is a line drawn in the sand that no one can pass. Are your reasons for transitioning more substantial the  risks you might encounter.
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Emily R

Thank you for your comment Stephanie,

But how old is too old?  I don't think i want SRS, just the results of HRT.

Are you  saying that the older your get the higher the risk?  This is probably true, but do women like you stop taking HRT when they turn 60? 65? or older?   If that is the case, do women that have been on HRT and SRS de-transition at some age and they revert to men with vaginas?  I know that it is easier for an older man to pass as a woman, specially since at that age women's estrogen level is almost non-existent.

I am thinking of low-dose HRT, enough to calm my GD and develop female characteristic.  I realize that every medication, even an aspirin has side effects specially the older you get, but since most of the changes that I desire are kind of permanent specially if I stick to a diet an appropriate exercise I would probably stop taking HRT within 3 to 5 years after I start.

Has anyone started HRT in their early 60's? and if so, what results and or complications did you get.

Emily



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Stephanie2

I just started HRT close to a month ago and I will be 65 shortly. It is too soon to tell of any results yet. So far no complications. I already had results on herbs and Bovine ovary. The BO was taken for around a year. Any further results of the HRT is yet to be seen. The boobs are around six years in the making so far.
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Emily R

Thank you Stephanie,

I guess there is hope for me then!    Please let me know how things are going in the future.

If you don't mind how much has your boobs grown since you started with the BO? and why BO instead of HRT back then?

Emily
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Newgirl Dani

Hi Emily and welcome  :),

For visual checking on progress that has happened for me, you can go to male to female transsexual talk, at the top click on page 44 of the all new before and after, these are a few just recently posted pics.

As to your question, I started about two months before my 63rd birthday and have been on hrt for six months.  I am on Estradiol Valerate IM and Spironolactone, every persons experience with hrt can and may be different, check out the wiki page on hrt  My progress was and is monitored by my Dr, with multiple blood workups along the way.  There are some medical studies that have been done concerning heart, thrombosis, and bone, but so far everything I have read is positive (this is also where a Dr. is invaluable.)  I cannot even begin to say how much my inner calm has improved.  Just be sure no stone is left unturned, look at the difficult things and then you and only you can know the next step to take.  Wish you well   Dani
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LordKAT

There are people here who started in their 60's and are doing fine. Just be sure to be under the care of a doctor.
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Cindy

Hi Hon,

58 when I started, 62 (cough) now.

HRT was totally magical. I'm fit, good diet, cut the booze and live every day.

A good endocrinologist looks after everything, remember HRT was 'invented' for post menopausal woman, lots of endos are experienced in how to treat us.

Take life on and enjoy it. Oh A-B boobs, non-passable as male , totally accepted as female.

A helpful hint - start laser/electro yesterday.
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Stephanie2

Quote from: Emily R on January 13, 2015, 10:37:02 AM
Thank you Stephanie,

I guess there is hope for me then!    Please let me know how things are going in the future.

If you don't mind how much has your boobs grown since you started with the BO? and why BO instead of HRT back then?



Emily

You are welcome, Emily. At last measurement I was a 40C (small C) and I could swear that I feel them getting heavier every week. I selected BO because I was hoping that my body would produce estrogen without even taking it anymore. However, I wasn't always successful in keeping my body temperature at the correct level for BO to work. So, I decided on the estrogen patches. I have read that they are a safer way to get estrogen. I will let you know if my boobs grow any more, however, my mother and sister were C cup and they say you get one cup less than they had, but I am already ahead of the game on that one. If I lose some weight, then they may be the first to reduce, unfortunately.

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julie_txcd

Hi Emily.
I'm 62 and will be starting HRT next week.
I guess I"m like you, I don't plan on transitioning, just want a lot of the effects of HRT.

Will stay in touch!

Julie
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Emily R

Hi Julie,

Did you start HRT yet?   If Yes, how is it going with it and have you noticed any changes yet? 

Please keep in touch

Emily
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islandgirl

Hi Emily! There seem to be many of us, who frequent this site, who are in a similar situation. I am 61. It seems that each of us has a different goal and timeline. That is all OK. I started HRT, sprit, three days ago. I am eager to see wha effect this will have on me. I am taking little steps in my transition, patience and all that. Much of this is because of wanting to bring my SO along with me on the journey. She is very anxious about the possibility of rapid 'feminizing'. I would to as quickly as possible and have SRS tomorrow it that were possible. Each of us needs to do what works for us. I have asked on my HRT post for information as to the impact of taking spiro. I will do my best to share what information I can about my journey. Look forward to following you on yours.
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Emily R

Island Girl,

You know you are going to hear my story, GIRL!   My goals are a little different, I want to start a low dosage of E and to prolong the transitioning maybe forever.  Just need to get rid of the GD and feel good about my body.

But time will tell....    I would have never predicted what I am doing now 6 months ago.

Please keep us all informed, as it reassuring to hear others going thru the same path and learning from their experiences.

Good Luck,  Keep it up,  well NOT necessarily   LOL! 

But definitely keep us informed of your progress and I will try to do the same.

Emily
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julie_txcd

Hi again Emily.
I started Spironolactone and progesterone Sat morning. just got my estradiol this evening and took my first pill.
So nothing yet. Waiting to see how I feel tomorrow.
Will keep you posted.

Julie
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Cindy Stephens

I am an older transitioner as well.  I did start hrt earlier at 54 and have had facial hair removed.  I just wanted to give a bit of encouragement to you about age.  A girl in London just had her grs done at the age of 81.  She was having other work done at the time.  They wouldn't have done it (risks) if she hadn't been having other work.  So by those standards, you are a spring chicken.
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Emily R

Thank You Cindy,

Your words of encouragements are appreciated.  I may not be a spring chicken but not 81 either.   I am not sure at what age I would stop from having  anything like that done, even if the surgeon was in the same area.  The risks of HRT at 54 or 61 are acceptable if you are healthy, now of course, when you are 81 what do you have to lose?

There is a time and a place for everything.

Emily
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Eveline

Emily, I'm a little younger than you, but not much. I started HRT almost two years ago at age 55.

The effects on my mind have been all I hoped for, and on the body, not bad.

My skin changed *a lot* and my face filled in differently. Also got some hips and boobs, and a little more butt. Not as much as I wanted, but that's life.

I did gain some weight, although I'm no hungrier than before. Unfortunately, it is a bit harder to get rid of now. ;)

I've had no real problems so far...
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Emily R

Hi Evvy,

I love to hear girls like you having a wonderful experience, similar to what I would like to see in the future when I start my own HRT.

The effects that you are seeing are what I would like to experience, specially the mind, but of course all of the others will be welcome and I will be very disappointed if they do not occur.

If I may ask you, have your genitals atrophied?  Did your bra band size changed as the result of losing muscle around your chest?

I am trying to lose a few more pounds before I begin, but it has become a lot harder because of the lost of muscle.

Well I am glad that you haven't had any issues, I can only hope for the same.  Please let me and the others know of your progress in the future.

Emily R
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Eveline

Emily, my bra band size didn't change much because as I lost muscle, I also gained weight.   ;D

Regarding the rest, I'll try to PM you.
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Rachel

Hi Emily, I am a late transitioner.  I am 52 2/3 and have been on hrt 20 months. Like Cindy said start laser and electrolysis hair removal right away. I waited 15 months on hrt to start and regret it. I think it took me time to feel safe and develop my inner personality. Saying I will do ABC and doing it is so unbelievably empowering and feels wonderful.

The calm is amazing. I have low level dysphoria all the time and get very bad dysphoria in waves only now and hold on knowing it will pass.

My hair is growing back a bit, skin is soft and I have A boobs. There are a lot of other benefits such as seeing colors better and being able to smell better (unless you are near a guy that did not shower today) and feel and cry.

Ever since I was small I wondered how my boobs would look if they grew. Well now I am seeing that progress. When just out of the shower I look down and smile. There was nothing about my body I could smile about till now. I am working on a great body and have plans for the future. That is a lot different than 26 months ago when there was nothing left.
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