I have had people in my life that have been very supportive of me over the years and when I came out as gay when I was 22 everyone was very supportive and I am not sure how they would respond to me being transgender and I have a feeling like people won't believe me because as a male I have a beard and I am keeping it until I feel like I am going to make more progress in becoming a female and I have a weird feeling that cis people will judge me and think that I am joking and that this person isn't transgender because of a beard and I feel like WTF? Its like what you have on the oustide doesn't define whats on the inside.

Plus my beard keeps my face warm here in the rockie mountains where I am a ski bum in the winter and a hiking bum in the summer. I just wish that people would accept all of us and realize that we are all different, some of us are gay, bisexual, transgender and even worse...straight, I kid I kid. I just wish that we could all be looked upon with respect and kindness. I love being transgender and wouldn't change it for the world and I think once my confidence gets stronger and stronger that I will start to think less and less what other people think, especially CIS people!

Quote from: PastyPrincess on October 21, 2014, 11:51:51 PM
I feel you, I really do.
I had a biology teacher a few years back who constantly stressed that you were either male or female depending on whether you had xy or xx chromosomes and that you weren't the other, and that really made me sad especially since she was telling a story about a transgendered student who tried to tell my bio teacher that she was a guy inside and the bio teacher just completely denied him and it made me really sad.

That's beyond sad, especially for a biology teacher. I wonder what she would say about someone that is XXY or other intersex individuals.

Quote from: Sydney_NYC on October 22, 2014, 02:26:35 PM
That's beyond sad, especially for a biology teacher. I wonder what she would say about someone that is XXY or other intersex individuals.

My bio teacher did mention XXY individuals and said something like they're a bit more aggressive or something, I don't remember exactly, but I didn't really like that class to begin with.

Quote from: PastyPrincess on October 23, 2014, 11:30:40 PM
My bio teacher did mention XXY individuals and said something like they're a bit more aggressive or something, I don't remember exactly, but I didn't really like that class to begin with.

XXX individuals (not XXY) were at one time said to be more aggressive due to extra testosterone from the XXX chromosomes, but is not always the case. XXY individuals tend to have lower than normal testosterone. If anything that would mean less aggressive. Clearly the bio teacher isn't that knowledgeable. I wonder if they are trying to use the Bible as a science book, LOL

biologically, anything with at least one y is male, and anything without any y is female.
even if the genitals are opposite of what the chromosomes say.

but that does not mean that chromosomes dictate behavior. if you aren't biologically female, you can still argue that you have developed female typical behavior, and your brain has a female number of sex hormone receptors. something which means cross sex hormone treatment is necessary in order to gain chemical balance, and it would be idiotic to try and force you into a male typical behavior.

Quote from: Taka on October 24, 2014, 03:28:19 AM
biologically, anything with at least one y is male, and anything without any y is female.
even if the genitals are opposite of what the chromosomes say.

Generally speaking Biological Sex refers to genitals, not chromosomes. For example a person with Androgen insensitivity syndrome (AIS) would be someone with XY chromosomes but biologically female.

Quote from: QuestioningEverything on September 10, 2014, 09:48:24 PM
I hate how they think orientation and gender identity go together that if your MTF you must like men or if your FTM you must like women.

Blame that on the medical profession. Scientists knew long ago that there were many expressions of gender and sexuality. However, through societal pressure or lack of understanding on their part, this was kept under wraps. How many TGLB people have been murdered  because these people could not share the truth?

cis people don't understand what it's like to stay up for hours trying to understand who you are, trying to make sense of all the feelings you have. they don't understand how it feels to not know who you are, to not feel connected to yourself.

Quote from: suzifrommd on September 11, 2014, 08:04:44 AM
I think a lot of cis people don't even think there IS such a thing as internally wired gender. I hear a lot of people, especially feminist women, say "gender is all social conditioning".

When your gender identity matches your physical sex, you simply don't notice it.

you absolutely hit the nail on the head with this. so true.

Actually based on comments on transgender articles I've seen, some anti-trans people that know about that first one and yet they don't care. Conform to your assigned binary gender or else. How dare you question your chromosomes.

Recently I saw a video on a little girl named Jazz who is transgender and she has parents that clearly love her, her siblings love her, and she is super happy yet people were saying kill it with fire in the comments. Others were labeling her as a spoiled little brat with terrible parents. Several even got that she was happy to be herself, but didn't care. Force her to be a boy.

Quote from: kittylover on September 10, 2014, 09:36:11 PM
cis people don't understand what it feels like to have dsyphoria-to want to get rid of your own body parts
they don't understand that transitioning can make the difference between being deppressed and miserable all the time and having a happy life
they don't understand that transitioning involves much more then just having "the surgery"
they don't understand that what you have down there doesn't make you a woman or a man and neither does whether your chromosomes are xx or xy (or in some intersex people something else)
they don't understand that having people check boxes on forms for "male" and "female" leaves many of us out
they don't understand that our language (and some other languages like french where even objects have genders even more so) ,our bathrooms, ppur schools, and our society are built on a binary that excludes us
they don't understand that we ARE ACTUALLY the gender we feel like whether or not we've done anything medically to transition
they don't understand....I wish I could get them to
feel free to add anything I missed

This a very interesting thread. 

I'm wondering though....if there's any such threads/topics in non-tg/ts/etc. forums that deal with what tg's/ts' don't often understand.  I'm wondering if such a thread might also prove interesting, if not downright entertaining.

Quote from: awilliams1701 on December 15, 2014, 03:20:59 PM
Actually based on comments on transgender articles I've seen, some anti-trans people that know about that first one and yet they don't care. Conform to your assigned binary gender or else. How dare you question your chromosomes.

Recently I saw a video on a little girl named Jazz who is transgender and she has parents that clearly love her, her siblings love her, and she is super happy yet people were saying kill it with fire in the comments. Others were labeling her as a spoiled little brat with terrible parents. Several even got that she was happy to be herself, but didn't care. Force her to be a boy.

i've seen that video about jazz as well! was so sweet to watch but reading the comments made me feel sick. i'm so glad she's found acceptance within her family and i really hope that what the gross transphobes of the world have to say isn't affecting her.

Quote from: QuestioningEverything on September 10, 2014, 09:48:24 PM
I hate how they think orientation and gender identity go together that if your MTF you must like men or if your FTM you must like women.

This.  This right here.  This may be one of the biggest hurdles I've had just to get here, to even begin to explore my true gender identity, because I know my sexual identity.  I've been sure of my romantic and sexual attraction to women from the moment I even realized I had such thoughts and feelings.  When most boys had their "girls are icky" phase, I was trying to be their boyfriend.  I was 6, I didn't know what any of it meant, I just knew it was how I felt.  I was taught to be a boy, but liking girls was natural, more natural than being a boy ever was. 

I wish someone would have told me this a year ago.  I wouldn't have waited so long to take a first step...

cis people who, as "allies," think that they can reclaim transphobic slurs

Quote from: Myshonok on January 13, 2015, 02:48:31 PM
cis people who, as "allies," think that they can reclaim transphobic slurs

Screw that! I don't even want to reclaim transphobic slurs.

My peave? Cisgenders who don't understand that if you can stand even a week on estrogen without a bad reaction you are definitely MAAB trans.

I can't stand the anti-trans argument, "Well, then, if I want be a dog, I can become a dog!"

I want to argue back, "OK. First you'll need to tell your friends and family that you plan to live the rest of your life as dog.  Then, you'll need to start medication that will make you more like a dog.  You will need to prove to at least 2 medical professionals you've truly felt you were a dog for at least 6 months.  Next you'll probably need hair transplants because dogs have lots hair.  You'll need surgeries to add a tail, reconfigure your legs, and adjust your vocal cords (dogs don't talk!).  If you do all that, then sure you can be a dog."

Oh, BTW, don't most dogs get neutered?  hehehe

I think alot of cisgender people have issues with their own gender as well, though transgender people see it all through an entirely different scope.
At that, it also depends on where you are in the transition or just whatever position you are in life.
Many women complain about things like unequal pay, lack of respect from men, etc.
On the other side, men complain about women getting to do whatever they want and that women get away with everything etc etc.
I think everyone transgender or cisgender, whatever you are is having issues with gender and we often look at our oppressor first.

Quote from: suzifrommd on September 11, 2014, 08:04:44 AM
I think a lot of cis people don't even think there IS such a thing as internally wired gender. I hear a lot of people, especially feminist women, say "gender is all social conditioning".

When your gender identity matches your physical sex, you simply don't notice it.

Quote from: synesthetic on December 14, 2014, 08:40:20 PM
you absolutely hit the nail on the head with this. so true.

As a cis-individual, I gotta say this even though I realize it can be offensive for some people to think of the possibility, but I'd rather offend some people for saying the truth than to agree with other based on lies. Maybe, just maybe is it that not every cis-individuals feel a concept of concept of gender nor possess a internal gender. I literally had to make up cis-genderless label over AVEN as a way to explain that not every cis-individuals have a gender and still prefer to identify based on what their body says by default. As a cis-individual, I gotta ask : "what the hell is the feeling of gender?".

To avoid going offtopic and a disclaimer that this doesn't apply to every cis-individuals, I don't get why some cis people insists on enforcing gender roles since it doesn't do good to anyone.  Gender roles is next to dead over here, and I'd prefer it to be completely dead. Nowaday, the only thing they enforce is clothings for men/women, but the rest isn't applicable as if you can act however you want.

I wish cis folk understood that some of us are just as confused by all of this gender fluidity and non-binary stuff as they are.  That many of us are still trying to figure out just who and what we really are, and that sometimes, many of us lack the words to describe it.  I also wish folks understood how unfair it is to discount someone's feelings and experience just because they may not always have the words to describe it.  Just because I don't know how to explain it to you doesn't make it any less real.

I think the genitalia is more important to some than others. For me it would be more an emotional comfort to have the right genitals than for sexual purposes. It would make me feel more complete.