Quote from: Katia on October 28, 2007, 12:36:45 AM
the women's lounge is cleaner.  i cant believe that ppl will think otherwise.

Women's toilets.  Who thinks "otherwise", Katia?  Maybe those peeps have never been in a women's toilet, so their ignorance is forgiven ~laugh~

I have used the ladies toilets for most of my life but have been living as a man for the last 4 years and have found that the main problem with mens toilets is the smell which can't really be helped with the open cesspits (urinals) in them but other than the bad smells and occasional missing toilet seats (and sometimes doors), the gents are usually ok. I haven't noticed any after effects of the phantom toilet roll puller offers that I used to see in the ladies    Anyone would have thought there had been a labrador puppy in there.

I must admit though, on balance the ladies were better hygiene wise but I don't get the same problems (have actually had a woman block the door and tell me that is was the ladies and to use the gents on one occasion and 2 young girls giggling on another and this was before I started transition) I used to get in the ladies toilets so I would veer towards the gents just for the fact men don't use toilets to socialise in, if you know what i mean?

Quote from: Kristi on October 24, 2007, 09:51:51 PM

Quote from: Tink on October 24, 2007, 09:37:24 PM

Yuck!  Ewwwww    this is why everybody should sit! 

tink

I think we should start a petition, Tink.  Know of any activists who like this kind of work?

Kristi

http://mapsu.org/

That would be 'Mothers Against Peeing Standing Up' but they probably let the non-mom's join. The site is very amusing and has printable posters.

Quote from: Doc on October 29, 2007, 08:37:31 PM

Quote from: Kristi on October 24, 2007, 09:51:51 PM

Quote from: Tink on October 24, 2007, 09:37:24 PM

Yuck!  Ewwwww    this is why everybody should sit! 

tink

I think we should start a petition, Tink.  Know of any activists who like this kind of work?

Kristi

http://mapsu.org/

That would be 'Mothers Against Peeing Standing Up' but they probably let the non-mom's join. The site is very amusing and has printable posters.

LOL    I love it!  We should buy a lot of those posters and pass them around the forums...  >

tink

yep gotta admit.  the ladies win

Quite honestly, the women's toilets are less filthy.

Quote from: Butterfly on October 28, 2007, 02:52:04 AM

Quote from: Katia on October 28, 2007, 12:36:45 AM
the womens lounge is cleaner.  i cant believe that ppl will think otherwise.

Womens toilets.  Who thinks otherwise, Katia?  Maybe those peeps have never been in a womens toilet, so their ignorance is forgiven ~laugh~

I want to know who those peeps are too Katia darling..   ladies toilets are cleaner.

vote for the womens

Not only are they cleaner, but they're often almost luxurious. There's a chi chi hotel in my town. The women's room is like a luxury suite, with two rows of sinks, marble and mahogany trim, and gold faucets. There are dishes of scented soaps and hand creams. There are chairs and miles of mirrors.

The men's room is one stall, three urinals, a mirror the size of a postage stamp, and the whole thing is about the size of the handicapped stall in the women's room.

Dennis

Normally I'd agree that a woman's room is cleaner than a man's. However this is certainly not the case at my most recent job. The office is 97% female, and there are two bathrooms per gender. Two are upstairs and two downstairs. The bathrooms downstairs are both used by women cause there's too many of them to only use one so I've spent many a time waiting to get in only to find I wasn't waiting on one of the five men that work there. I am not upset about that, but when someone leaves their stinky shoes in there I'm aggetated to say the least. The shoes sat there all day, no one claimed them and they were slippers(female). Ended up in the trash by closing time.

The smells I've smelled in that place are disgusting, and I'm sorry to say it's coming from the the girls using the fascilities. I just can't believe they are like that at home. It's THAT bad.

Save to say I don't work there anymore and I don't miss that part one bit.

I don't mean to put any woman down here. I'm only using that place as a real bad example of what shouldn't be. It's usually the opposite in most places I've been.

I have used the ladies room while out and I find them much cleaner, but they can be dirty as well.  The men's room has the problem with the urinal smell, gross!  At home I always sit because you really can't aim propery without splattering everywhere.  It is much cleaner to sit.

Women's restroom is sooooooo much cleaner, nicer. Some have form as well as function. Plus the seats in the men's room...ick.

When I was a struggling student, I did office cleaning to make extra cash.

I didn't find much difference between the mens and womens toilets - they were both equally gross.

One thing I noticed though was the quality of the writing we had to scrub off the backs of the cubicle doors.

The women won outright every time, not only for neatness and grammar, but also for explicit content...and some of them have the cheek to call men perverted!

Bobbie

Um... yeah. When I go to the restroom, I go for one reason: to relieve myself. It doesn't have to be floral-scented or pretty and pink or anything of the sort... I just want a toilet, a sink, and possibly some soap. It's a good thing.

Btw... it'll get the living crap beat out of me I'm sure, but women are just as disgusting with their public restrooms as are men. For every time I've had to clean off a toilet seat in the men's room, I've ended up doing the same in the women's, except that many times, it's not just urine on the seat... yeah. Women are gross.

QuoteBtw... it'll get the living crap beat out of me I'm sure, but women are just as disgusting with their public restrooms as are men. For every time I've had to clean off a toilet seat in the men's room, I've ended up doing the same in the women's, except that many times, it's not just urine on the seat... yeah. Women are gross.

^^  thats what I was trying to say..

I've seen some -disgusting- women's rooms... they can be just as bad if not worse then mens rooms.

Quote from: Butterfly on October 28, 2007, 02:52:04 AM

Maybe those peeps have never been in a women's toilet, so their ignorance is forgiven ~laugh~

Given what the natal females have said in this thread recently, you could re-apply this statement for some amusing conclusions 

Quote from: Yvonne on October 27, 2007, 07:31:28 PM
It depends on where you are.  Toilets are toilets but a toilet in a rest stop in the boonies isnt the same as a toilet in a Parisian fashion event for example.

Thank you, Yvonne.  It depends where you are and where you go.  Certainly a public restroom in a McDonald's in the middle of nowhere is NOT going to be as clean as the ladies' lounge at Bloomingdales or Saks for instance.  So I guess people should try to avoid those filthy places, eh?  I do!     I will never be caught dead in any of those disgusting restrooms not suitable for human use! 

tink

Quote from: Tink on November 06, 2007, 06:06:19 PM...
I will never be caught dead in any of those disgusting restrooms not suitable for human use! 

Gosh!! I should hope that you wouldn't be caught dead in a restroom anywhere, at all, Tink!!! *grin*

As for clean. Top-end department stores apparently have robo-servers that scurry outta the walls every thirty seconds to clean the toilets. They never seem to be dirty.

Bathrooms in other places, generally vary Mickey D's not so clean very often and truck stops and service stations and convenience stores. Also vary, but tend to be on the untidy side.

As for male/female differentials. I see pee on women's rooms floor often enough, the squat and miss variety most likely.

The bits of TP that women drop on the floor as if they cannot bear to touch a partial piece of TP and the dirty towels that never seem to make it through the trash-container slots just disgust me.

As I recall, the odor is, generally, better in the women's toilets. But there is nothing nastier to my mind more frequently than a public toilet, male or female oriented.

I like to wait till I get home as much as possible.

Quote from: DeanO on November 06, 2007, 01:01:08 AM
Btw... it'll get the living crap beat out of me I'm sure, but women are just as disgusting with their public restrooms as are men. For every time I've had to clean off a toilet seat in the men's room, I've ended up doing the same in the women's, except that many times, it's not just urine on the seat... yeah. Women are gross.

I've never had to clean off a seat in the men's room.

I would say that a men's room almost always smells a bit pissy, even a clean one.

A women's room, when clean, is pristine and odourless.

But a dirty men's room is never half as bad as a dirty women's. Urine and feces on the seats, toilets clogged and then used and not flushed, toilets simply not flushed, drifting scraps of toilet paper, some damp on one end from the women making instant DYI toilet-seat covers, crumpled paper towels on the floor by the door. Very often in a dirty ladies it's obvious that it was scrubbed pristinely clean very recently. What happens is that one fastidious lady comes in and she can't bear to let her naked bottom touch a public toilet seat, so she 'hovers' and pees on the seat and then every other woman who comes in after her is compelled to do the same thing, creating extremely foul conditions almost immediately.

This stuff wouldn't happen to near its customary extreme if the fastidious lady who feels compelled to hover would think to lift the seat first

This subject is getting really gross.