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Kasim also said that HIV is often tied up with morality, thus discouraging people from coming out and talking about HIV/AIDS openly.

Participants at the conference also discussed how transsexuals and transgenders were shunned by religious fundamentalists.

Kasim, while quoting an example, said if a transsexual is arrested in Malaysia, he has to pay $7-14 as compensation. But if the person is a Muslim, then the compensation amount increases to $200-800!