I asked my doctor if I can give blood on HRT and he said no.

That being said, I've yet to ask the blood bank, and it may be different in other countries.

My understanding is that TG on HRT cannot donate blood products in Australia, the logic has not been explained.


When thinking about donating and particularly selling blood, eggs, sperm etc the Laws tend to change from country to country and possible within different states in a country.

So do make sure of the legality and be fully informed on the potential health consequences.

Quote from: LordKAT on February 19, 2015, 06:18:26 PM
Heavy doses of females hormones are used to harvest them. They don't just go in and cut them out.

How does it work then? I'm sorry, I'm totally clueless, but $5000 is a lot of money and nobody told me this before I started T....

Quote from: Cindy on February 19, 2015, 11:01:06 PM
My understanding is that TG on HRT cannot donate blood products in Australia, the logic has not been explained.


When thinking about donating and particularly selling blood, eggs, sperm etc the Laws tend to change from country to country and possible within different states in a country.

So do make sure of the legality and be fully informed on the potential health consequences.

I wasn't excluded from donating blood because I'm Trans or on HRT. I was asked who my sexual partners was - a guy - and even though he's been tested, we live together and engaged, it means nothing. In the eyes of organizations like these, they lump us all together.

The laws sre diffrent from place to place and where I live its not legal. some people do it anyway, I mean you fill a paper and say you never had sex with men and its not like the anti-gay police would come and check if you had gay sex or not, but im just tired of lying and dealing with systems who dont accept me, so they can complain that they need blood untill they change there rules cause im not pretending to be someone im not. Being trans is a grayzone area but since many dont see a diffrence in being gay or trans it can also be problematic to get permission if you live in a place where its not legal.

I was glad for a moment  about getting paid to donate eggs which I assumed was the ovaries..but the last thing I need is more female hormones. It's not worth it for me.

Quote from: lionheart on February 20, 2015, 08:14:47 AM
How does it work then? I'm sorry, I'm totally clueless, but $5000 is a lot of money and nobody told me this before I started T....

Your body normally releases one egg per month that can possibly turn into a baby. They use hormones to make your body ripen  many eggs so they can be harvested.

I believe the money is to off set the cost of the medications used to ripen the eggs, not as a way to earn money. This is also why you get paid to 'donate' your eggs.

Quote from: LordKAT on February 20, 2015, 02:07:07 PM
Your body normally releases one egg per month that can possibly turn into a baby. They use hormones to make your body ripen  many eggs so they can be harvested.

I believe the money is to off set the cost of the medications used to ripen the eggs, not as a way to earn money. This is also why you get paid to 'donate' your eggs.

The medication used to boost the production of viable eggs is quite expensive on its own. It's gone down, but it was well over $300 for a weeks worth of treatment when I was working in pharma and that was the not as reliable stuff medication. The testing and actual harvesting (man that sounds so odd to say) also bolster up the price.

It can actually be an expensive thing to undergo depending on where you live.

Quote from: lionheart on February 20, 2015, 08:14:47 AM
How does it work then? I'm sorry, I'm totally clueless, but $5000 is a lot of money and nobody told me this before I started T....

Quote from: LordKAT on February 20, 2015, 02:07:07 PM
Your body normally releases one egg per month that can possibly turn into a baby. They use hormones to make your body ripen  many eggs so they can be harvested.

I believe the money is to off set the cost of the medications used to ripen the eggs, not as a way to earn money. This is also why you get paid to 'donate' your eggs.

Like LordKat said, the hormones make you produce a ton of eggs all at once (that's where some risks come on, because if way too much get formed, it can cause the ovary to have lots of complications. . . ). To take them out, they stick this little thing up you, and up to the ovary where the pull the eggs out.

At the donation banks, you don't pay for any of the hormones, so you're not being compensated for the costs of buying the hormones. The bank provides you with them at their cost. The money is for the inconvenience of traveling to and from the clinic, the actual procedure itself, p&s, etc.

I think it's fine personally. To each their own just know the risks of everything. I myself am donating eggs soon for many reasons but I was told 8,000 to 10,000 is what I wonder where you'd get the 3000 you mentioned.

Quote from: JHeron on February 20, 2015, 08:33:14 PM
I myself am donating eggs soon for many reasons but I was told 8,000 to 10,000 is what I wonder where you'd get the 3000 you mentioned.

When I looked into it before, I was told that sometimes state law can determine what maximum compensation can be offered for donating eggs. The agency I was looking into was in a few different states and they listed $3,000-$10,000 as the range, your actual amount depending on the state and other factors. Where I was, I could've gotten between $5,000-$8,000.

If it was legal in Australia I'd have my name down in a heart beat. Money might not grow on trees, but it's sprouting in my ovaries.

I'd guess the answer would be that IM T is associated with steroid abuse (not sure re: estradial though).
As for other countries:

In the US, I believe that you can, as some of the guys donate as a way around the problem of high red blood counts. As for selling plasma, would probably not be as much of an issue, but I don't know having never done it. Various states are not different here.

But Males having sex with males (MSM) (though as trans not sure that would count? I don't know how that works actually).

--Jay

Quote from: Cindy on February 19, 2015, 11:01:06 PM
My understanding is that TG on HRT cannot donate blood products in Australia, the logic has not been explained.


When thinking about donating and particularly selling blood, eggs, sperm etc the Laws tend to change from country to country and possible within different states in a country.

So do make sure of the legality and be fully informed on the potential health consequences.

Quote from: JayBut Males having sex with males (MSM) (though as trans not sure that would count? I don't know how that works actually).

According to the Advocate, the FDA considers all trans people to be gay men when it comes to donating blood.
http://www.advocate.com/health/2015/02/02/fda-everyone-transgender-gay-man

(Yes, I know that's bonkers, but that seems to be what it adds up to... )

Bone marrow donations through apheresis shouldn't be any more invasive than a standard blood donation. However, I'm not sure that for-profit centers use this method.

Giving blood is something that I really wanted to do. Bummin' .

In the U.S., I gave blood to my local blood bank with one hitch: I had to be coded as female because I hadn't had bottom surgery yet. I was assured that after the surgery, I would be coded as male. Furthermore, I represented myself as a man who HADN'T had sex with other men; all of my sexual exploits were pre-transition, and I was living as a woman at the time. I was told that such a representation would be accurate after bottom surgery as long as my sexual history did not change.

Other trans men in my city donate blood. Some are out and some are not. So I'm not convinced that the Advocate article is accurate.

Quote from: Cindy on February 19, 2015, 11:01:06 PM
My understanding is that TG on HRT cannot donate blood products in Australia, the logic has not been explained.

If this is the case, how is this not a violation of the Sex Discrimination Act?

Technically trans people are unable to donate blood anywhere. Many do regardless, marked down as members of their hormonal sex.

It's bad protocol to mark someone down as their assigned sex just for being pre-bottom surgery -- that has no effect on one's actual blood, whereas hormones make for most of the difference. The only people for whom donating blood would be actually dangerous are FTMs who have had biological children.

Quote from: reddon on February 22, 2015, 07:19:41 AM
The only people for whom donating blood would be actually dangerous are FTMs who have had biological children.

How?