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The Gendercator drama, part 1

Started by Shana A, November 05, 2007, 06:59:05 PM

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Shana A

http://www.bilerico.com/2007/11/the_gendercator_drama_part_1.php

"The Gendercator drama, part 1
Filed by: Mattilda Bernstein Sycamore
November 5, 2007 8:40 AM

Okay, I was going to go right into a description of a panel discussion I went to about the movie The Gendercator, but maybe you don't know about the Gendercator so I better start with a brief summary. The Gendercator is a short film by Catherine Crouch that follows a lesbian tomboy who gets high at a party and passes out in 1973, only to wake up in 2048. Times have changed, and she can no longer inhabit a non-binary gender presentation -- instead she can conform to socially-assigned roles of "female" or hormonally and surgically transition to "male.""
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Pica Pica

sounds very interesting. Considering some of the things that have been said in discussion on this forum, I can conceive of transpeople and the christian right forcing everyone into binary...i think it should have been shown and discussed.
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Shana A

Quote from: Pica Pica on November 05, 2007, 07:06:40 PM
sounds very interesting. Considering some of the things that have been said in discussion on this forum, I can conceive of transpeople and the christian right forcing everyone into binary...i think it should have been shown and discussed.

It looks interesting. I'd like the chance to see it and decide for myself whether I find it transphobic or not, but I don't have high hopes of it playing anywhere near where I live.

zythyra
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Hypatia

Quote from: Pica Pica on November 05, 2007, 07:06:40 PM
sounds very interesting. Considering some of the things that have been said in discussion on this forum, I can conceive of transpeople and the christian right forcing everyone into binary...i think it should have been shown and discussed.
Oh right, we're going to join an alliance with our bitterest enemy--have another bong. That's not only delusional paranoia, it's downright transphobic. I'm very disappointed that youwould post such a transphobic comment here.
Here's what I find about compromise--
don't do it if it hurts inside,
'cause either way you're screwed,
eventually you'll find
you may as well feel good;
you may as well have some pride

--Indigo Girls
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Pica Pica

Only said I could conceive of it, not that it was likely.
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Seshatneferw

Well, yes, that scenario seems pretty implausible. Still, some of the discussions we've had on these forums do give rise to certain transphobic sentiments -- but from a perspective that is very different from yours.

A minority of the TS people here have an undercurrent that I fear, to a certain degree. Not in the sense that the Religious Wrong fear transsexuality, but rather in the sense that transsexuals fear those nuts. I do not believe this has anything to do with either clinical or large-scale social aspects of transsexuality in itself; rather, the kind of factionalism (of the type 'I can't believe that a so-called androgyne identity exists') is an unfortunate by-product of the transgendered community having very wide internal variation. I am quite committed to a general acceptance of transsexuals; it's just that I'm afraid some of the TS people would be willing to sacrifice the acceptance of non-binary gender identities in order to achieve this. That's the phobia here.

Distasteful as this film may be (and I doubt there's very much chance of any of us ever seeing it), it might prompt some useful discussion.

  Nfr
Whoopee! Man, that may have been a small one for Neil, but it's a long one for me.
-- Pete Conrad, Apollo XII
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Pica Pica

Thanks for putting that, I couldn't get my words in the right nuances. No phobia here, I am scared of nothing but roads and cars and bridges over roads.
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Seshatneferw

What, you are not afraid of a gigantic shrimp laying eggs on you? :)

Anyway, you're welcome.
Nothing to see here, nothing to be afraid of, everything's under control, we're all friends here.

  Nfr
Whoopee! Man, that may have been a small one for Neil, but it's a long one for me.
-- Pete Conrad, Apollo XII
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Pica Pica

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Shana A

"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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