Hello Hello,
So I a at the point in my life where it is time to choose a Doctor. I am trying to find more information on Dr. Timothy Alexander, he is out of Ft.Lauderdale, Fl. If anyone has any feed back I would appreciate it. Yes, I have looked on youtube.com, their website and I was sent some pics that were taken well after the swelling went down. They look pretty good to me.

Quote from: PaperShips on March 05, 2015, 08:02:16 PM
Hello Hello,
So I a at the point in my life where it is time to choose a Doctor. I am trying to find more information on Dr. Timothy Alexander, he is out of Ft.Lauderdale, Fl. If anyone has any feed back I would appreciate it. Yes, I have looked on youtube.com, their website and I was sent some pics that were taken well after the swelling went down. They look pretty good to me.

I have only ever heard bad things about this guy.  I personally wouldn't consider him.

i was just about to start a topic about him. he had a wholeeee bunch of lawsuits against him like 10 years ago (nothing to do with top surgery, i don't think) which made me hesitant but i was very much looking into him regardless. it bothers me, though, that i can't really find any results of his anywhere other than his website. i mostly wanted to go with him because i was hoping for peri-areolar (and what few results i've seen look good) but i had a phone consultation with his nurse this morning who told me that he would have to do DI on me (and that my nipples/areola would stay the same? which wouldn't work on a male chest but ok). she also told me that they'd have to do my procedure in the hospital instead of his center because i weigh too much. i'm not in the best of shape, but i'm chubby at the most, so i thought that was weird.

anyway, again, it just bothers me that i can't really find any of his results anywhere. even on tumblr, it's mostly just people asking about him. his prices kind of send a red flag to me as well. he's very cheap in comparison to most surgeons which is great, but i don't understand WHY he's so much cheaper, and that kind of bothers me for some reason. at this point my top choice is garramone, and i didn't want to go with him for the longest time.
(this was kind of a personal rant more than anything, sorry! though i hope this helps since i have personal experience with his staff.)

Quote from: ryanjoseph on March 05, 2015, 09:22:30 PM
i was just about to start a topic about him. he had a wholeeee bunch of lawsuits against him like 10 years ago (nothing to do with top surgery, i don't think) which made me hesitant but i was very much looking into him regardless. it bothers me, though, that i can't really find any results of his anywhere other than his website. i mostly wanted to go with him because i was hoping for peri-areolar (and what few results i've seen look good) but i had a phone consultation with his nurse this morning who told me that he would have to do DI on me (and that my nipples/areola would stay the same? which wouldn't work on a male chest but ok). she also told me that they'd have to do my procedure in the hospital instead of his center because i weigh too much. i'm not in the best of shape, but i'm chubby at the most, so i thought that was weird.

anyway, again, it just bothers me that i can't really find any of his results anywhere. even on tumblr, it's mostly just people asking about him. his prices kind of send a red flag to me as well. he's very cheap in comparison to most surgeons which is great, but i don't understand WHY he's so much cheaper, and that kind of bothers me for some reason. at this point my top choice is garramone, and i didn't want to go with him for the longest time.
(this was kind of a personal rant more than anything, sorry! though i hope this helps since i have personal experience with his staff.)

To my knowledge, at least for a limited amount of time, his prices were lower in honor of an upcoming top surgeon in F.L., Dr Keshishian, who had passed away.  From what I've heard, his prices were lower and Dr. Alexander couldn't quite match his price, but he still wanted guys to get a good deal in his memory, so that could be a reason.  I have no idea if the special is still going on.  I also heard about his lawsuits against him.  I think at least one person died after going to him.  While deaths can happen in any surgery, including mine, I've still decided to go with a person who has better track record, which, in my case, would be Dr. Garramone.

Quote from: ryanjoseph on March 05, 2015, 09:22:30 PM
i was just about to start a topic about him. he had a wholeeee bunch of lawsuits against him like 10 years ago (nothing to do with top surgery, i don't think) which made me hesitant but i was very much looking into him regardless. it bothers me, though, that i can't really find any results of his anywhere other than his website. i mostly wanted to go with him because i was hoping for peri-areolar (and what few results i've seen look good) but i had a phone consultation with his nurse this morning who told me that he would have to do DI on me (and that my nipples/areola would stay the same? which wouldn't work on a male chest but ok). she also told me that they'd have to do my procedure in the hospital instead of his center because i weigh too much. i'm not in the best of shape, but i'm chubby at the most, so i thought that was weird.

anyway, again, it just bothers me that i can't really find any of his results anywhere. even on tumblr, it's mostly just people asking about him. his prices kind of send a red flag to me as well. he's very cheap in comparison to most surgeons which is great, but i don't understand WHY he's so much cheaper, and that kind of bothers me for some reason. at this point my top choice is garramone, and i didn't want to go with him for the longest time.
(this was kind of a personal rant more than anything, sorry! though i hope this helps since i have personal experience with his staff.)

Ummmm, he can't get any business without having low prices since he does poor work?  It is pretty obvious to me.  Plastic surgery is part artistry.  Go to Garramone now, or you will just be going to him for revisions later.   

Quote from: Brett on March 05, 2015, 08:57:41 PM
I have only ever heard bad things about this guy.  I personally wouldn't consider him.

Ok. What sort of bad things have you heard? Also, I have spoken to gents who did go to Dr.G and still had to have a revision. They informed me that the revision with Dr.G was about as expensive as the original surgery. I have seen gents go to a Doctor that no one knows and get just as impressive results. I care less about a name and more about the ability to work with my chest specifically.

Quote from: ryanjoseph on March 05, 2015, 09:22:30 PM
i was just about to start a topic about him. he had a wholeeee bunch of lawsuits against him like 10 years ago (nothing to do with top surgery, i don't think) which made me hesitant but i was very much looking into him regardless. it bothers me, though, that i can't really find any results of his anywhere other than his website. i mostly wanted to go with him because i was hoping for peri-areolar (and what few results i've seen look good) but i had a phone consultation with his nurse this morning who told me that he would have to do DI on me (and that my nipples/areola would stay the same? which wouldn't work on a male chest but ok). she also told me that they'd have to do my procedure in the hospital instead of his center because i weigh too much. i'm not in the best of shape, but i'm chubby at the most, so i thought that was weird.

anyway, again, it just bothers me that i can't really find any of his results anywhere. even on tumblr, it's mostly just people asking about him. his prices kind of send a red flag to me as well. he's very cheap in comparison to most surgeons which is great, but i don't understand WHY he's so much cheaper, and that kind of bothers me for some reason. at this point my top choice is garramone, and i didn't want to go with him for the longest time.
(this was kind of a personal rant more than anything, sorry! though i hope this helps since i have personal experience with his staff.)

I did find two people on youtube that have experience with Dr.Alexander. 1 posted vids several years ago while the other I am waiting for an email with answers to my questions.  It does not alarm me that I do not see any stuff about Dr. Alexander because we have to consider that so many of us go stealth. So many of us do not report back to the community at large. What alarms me is that I am not getting clear information as to why it is bad or good. When did this happen? Things of that nature. I understand that Dr.G has a body type that he does wonderfully and Dr.Mendalie is brilliant with larger gents. Everyone has a niche. My question is, what is Dr.Alexanders niche?

I think VERY much lower prices are a kind of red flag. This surgery takes 90 minutes or more to do, requires an anesthesiologist, at least two nurses, etc. I don't know what the cost to the doctor is but I would guess it is fairly high, probably in the thousands. Not sure what I would think re: surgery for about $5000, and not sure if there are hidden fees of some kind. It's on the very low end, let's just say. I was not impressed with the photos on his page.

I am not concerned by itself with a surgeon who is less well-known. There are a number of excellent surgeons who are quite under the radar. You just don't hear their names as much, but I don't think that in and of itself means that much.


--Jay

Quote from: aleon515 on March 06, 2015, 03:21:56 AM


I am not concerned by itself with a surgeon who is less well-known. There are a number of excellent surgeons who are quite under the radar. You just don't hear their names as much, but I don't think that in and of itself means that much.


--Jay

For me, the concern with Alexander is the malpractice suits (I should have written that in my original post) and has nothing to do with him being less well known, as Jay said.  To be honest with you, there is no other surgeon that I would directly say I don't think someone should go to, except for him.  i am aware that it is a very strong statement.

For me personally, though, going to a surgeon with a lot of experience was very important.  I chose my surgeon (Garramone), based on consistency of results.  It was a very mathematical decision for me.  He does 500 surgeries a year with consistent results.  He consistently produces the FTM chest that I like the look of best.  When I chose him, I actually wasn't active on this site, or knew anyone who went to him, so it wasn't about seeking a "brand".  I made my decision in a vacuum based on my own research.  Even if I didn't love his results, but they were consistent, I would have chosen him over a surgeon who had beautiful results most of the time, and not so good the rest of the time.  Personally, I am not going to "play the odds" if I can afford not to.  Plus, Garramone is middle to low priced.  I live near Fischer, and it ended up costing me close to the same even with flights, room, and board.

I am curious to understand what you mean when you say that his chests are best for a certain body type.  That is the first time I have heard that.  I also haven't heard Medalie is good for heavier people, so I am curious about that too.

Last thing was I was joking about going to Garramone for revisions.  I only said it because two people in the last 7 days have posted about recently going to Garramone for revisions.  So, that was on my mind.  Certainly many surgeons can give quality revisions.  I actually have some puffiness on the side I may have Fischer fix for me instead of going all the way back to Garramone.

Quote from: Brett on March 06, 2015, 02:58:27 PM
For me, the concern with Alexander is the malpractice suits (I should have written that in my original post) and has nothing to do with him being less well known, as Jay said.  To be honest with you, there is no other surgeon that I would directly say I don't think someone should go to, except for him.  i am aware that it is a very strong statement.

For me personally, though, going to a surgeon with a lot of experience was very important.  I chose my surgeon (Garramone), based on consistency of results.  It was a very mathematical decision for me.  He does 500 surgeries a year with consistent results.  He consistently produces the FTM chest that I like the look of best.  When I chose him, I actually wasn't active on this site, or knew anyone who went to him, so it wasn't about seeking a "brand".  I made my decision in a vacuum based on my own research.  Even if I didn't love his results, but they were consistent, I would have chosen him over a surgeon who had beautiful results most of the time, and not so good the rest of the time.  Personally, I am not going to "play the odds" if I can afford not to.  Plus, Garramone is middle to low priced.  I live near Fischer, and it ended up costing me close to the same even with flights, room, and board.

I am curious to understand what you mean when you say that his chests are best for a certain body type.  That is the first time I have heard that.  I also haven't heard Medalie is good for heavier people, so I am curious about that too.

Last thing was I was joking about going to Garramone for revisions.  I only said it because two people in the last 7 days have posted about recently going to Garramone for revisions.  So, that was on my mind.  Certainly many surgeons can give quality revisions.  I actually have some puffiness on the side I may have Fischer fix for me instead of going all the way back to Garramone.

I am suggesting that certain Doctors have a niche if you will. A shape or cut that they are able to replicate without issue and it comes out brilliantly.  I have noticed that some surgeons do not execute in certain situations as well as in others. Example. Medalie is brilliant all the way around. From the peri to the DI I have yet to see one that I think to myself "Wow....must have been a long day". He does what he needs to do to fit the chest, not the other way around.

In terms of Garramone, I was pointing to the fact that there are people that have gone to him for their surgeries that ended up not being happy ith their results. Per their experience they have stated that he requires about the same as the original surgery(-1k+/-). What I was intending to state that he is human and does indeed make mistakes.

I can understand the logic behind Garramone but there are more people coming out about not being thrilled about their results. As of the moment Garramone is charging $7300 which is not exactly middle of the road.

$7300 is on the lower middle side of the road from what I've seen. I was quoted less by some lesser known local plastic surgeons in the DC area who were willing to wiggle on price because they have so few FTM chests in their portfolio. I'm paying $8450 to go to Fischer because I hate traveling and she's been doing this for decades. I like her results and I felt 100% comfortable with her during my consult.

People are also more likely to complain about bad experiences than they are to talk about good ones. If the people who aren't happy with their results have included pictures, let those speak for themselves. 

Quote from: ftmax on March 12, 2015, 09:39:53 AM
$7300 is on the lower middle side of the road from what I've seen. I was quoted less by some lesser known local plastic surgeons in the DC area who were willing to wiggle on price because they have so few FTM chests in their portfolio. I'm paying $8450 to go to Fischer because I hate traveling and she's been doing this for decades. I like her results and I felt 100% comfortable with her during my consult.

People are also more likely to complain about bad experiences than they are to talk about good ones. If the people who aren't happy with their results have included pictures, let those speak for themselves.

Yes, I met with Fischer and felt comfortable with her, as well.  If I hadn't gone to Garramone, she would have been my next choice.  I spent not much more with traveling, housing, food, with Garramone.  We all have different circumstances and different docs suit us for different reasons.

I am curious to see a picture of a Garramone chest that the owner was not pleased with.  Of course, they must be out there.  Beside the "back fat" guy, I haven't seen/heard of any.

Paperships, if you meet Alexander and are comfortable with him, go for it. You asked our opinions and we gave them.

Quote from: Brett on March 13, 2015, 06:30:09 PM
Yes, I met with Fischer and felt comfortable with her, as well.  If I hadn't gone to Garramone, she would have been my next choice.  I spent not much more with traveling, housing, food, with Garramone.  We all have different circumstances and different docs suit us for different reasons.

I am curious to see a picture of a Garramone chest that the owner was not pleased with.  Of course, they must be out there.  Beside the "back fat" guy, I haven't seen/heard of any.

Paperships, if you meet Alexander and are comfortable with him, go for it. You asked our opinions and we gave them.

I am curious as well.  I watched the video of the "back fat" guy and honestly, his results didn't look TOO bad.  I am close to his size and skin tone and I had to ask myself if I got that similar result, would it still be worth it for me, and ultimately, yes.  There seems to be a trend on bashing Dr. Garramone lately (not saying you are doing that, Paperships), so I would really love to see pictures of these guys that have these less-than-stellar results from him that are not happy with the results.  Aside from the "back fat" guy, I haven't seen any, but I do agree, one must choose the surgeon that is best suited for them.  I seriously considered going to either Dr. Crane or Dr. Medalie, but those options were not the best for me, just because of the circumstances (having to go alone and prefering to have this done on the East Coast where I live).

I agree with Brett.  If you feel comfortable with Dr. Alexander, then go for it, and maybe come back here and share your experience with us!  I've seen one result from him I think, and it looked good.

Quote from: Brett on March 13, 2015, 06:30:09 PM
Yes, I met with Fischer and felt comfortable with her, as well.  If I hadn't gone to Garramone, she would have been my next choice.  I spent not much more with traveling, housing, food, with Garramone.  We all have different circumstances and different docs suit us for different reasons.

I am curious to see a picture of a Garramone chest that the owner was not pleased with.  Of course, they must be out there.  Beside the "back fat" guy, I haven't seen/heard of any.

Paperships, if you meet Alexander and are comfortable with him, go for it. You asked our opinions and we gave them.

Absolutely, I was asking if there anyone know something I did not know about Dr. Alexander. I hope the conversation did not come off as curt or rude. Yet still, I do appreciate the input. It may not seem like it but I do appreciate you all.

Quote from: King Malachite on March 13, 2015, 09:34:29 PM


I am curious as well.  I watched the video of the "back fat" guy and honestly, his results didn't look TOO bad.  I am close to his size and skin tone and I had to ask myself if I got that similar result, would it still be worth it for me, and ultimately, yes.  There seems to be a trend on bashing Dr. Garramone lately (not saying you are doing that, Paperships), so I would really love to see pictures of these guys that have these less-than-stellar results from him that are not happy with the results.  Aside from the "back fat" guy, I haven't seen any, but I do agree, one must choose the surgeon that is best suited for them.  I seriously considered going to either Dr. Crane or Dr. Medalie, but those options were not the best for me, just because of the circumstances (having to go alone and prefering to have this done on the East Coast where I live).

I agree with Brett.  If you feel comfortable with Dr. Alexander, then go for it, and maybe come back here and share your experience with us!  I've seen one result from him I think, and it looked good.

do you have a link to the back fat guy's video? but i agree, i've seen several people bash garramone recently, which initially made me really hesitant to him, but i actually haven't seen any bad results. i live in florida and i'm going at this completely alone, and alexander just isn't as consistent as him so i personally didn't feel comfortable with him. (although i'm a bit nervous as i haven't seen any "before" pics of guys with similar chests/body structures as mine, so i truly have no idea what to expect)

Quote from: ryanjoseph on March 19, 2015, 02:51:44 AM
do you have a link to the back fat guy's video? but i agree, i've seen several people bash garramone recently, which initially made me really hesitant to him, but i actually haven't seen any bad results. i live in florida and i'm going at this completely alone, and alexander just isn't as consistent as him so i personally didn't feel comfortable with him. (although i'm a bit nervous as i haven't seen any "before" pics of guys with similar chests/body structures as mine, so i truly have no idea what to expect)

Here is the link:






Honestly, I kind of thing the whole Garramone-bashing trend started with this video, and another video from a popular transguy on Youtube.

This guy had an unrealistic expectation re: top surgery. He would not have gotten a better result somewhere else. I've seen this guy's posts, etc. You should read the small print before you go in for surgery.

--Jay

Quote from: King Malachite on March 19, 2015, 05:09:01 AM

Here is the link:






Honestly, I kind of thing the whole Garramone-bashing trend started with this video, and another video from a popular transguy on Youtube.

I completely agree with you.  That is when the bashing started.  I hear that people SAY that people are unhappy with their Garramone chest and yet outside of this guy, I have not seen/heard a guy who got their chest done by him displeased and posted pictures.

Quote from: aleon515 on March 19, 2015, 11:15:17 AM
This guy had an unrealistic expectation re: top surgery. He would not have gotten a better result somewhere else. I've seen this guy's posts, etc. You should read the small print before you go in for surgery.

--Jay

Definitely.  I think that Garramone talks about back fat now on his site due to this guy's video and the fall out from it.

Quote from: Brett on March 20, 2015, 07:47:46 PM
I completely agree with you.  That is when the bashing started.  I hear that people SAY that people are unhappy with their Garramone chest and yet outside of this guy, I have not seen/heard a guy who got their chest done by him displeased and posted pictures.

During my phone consult, Dr. Garramone told me that half of his patients are larger guys, so logically, one would think that there would be more people who are dissatisfied with him posting pictures of their surgery.  I think having realistic expectations is the best way to go.  I've seen healthy, physically fit thin guys who have prepped for surgery (top and bottom), and yet they still needed a revision or have some type of complication that couldn't have been avoided.  Meanwhile, I've seen guys that didn't appear to be as physically fit (not saying that they weren't), and they have decent results from the get go and have no need for a revision (speaking mostly about top surgery now).  That being said, having realistic expectations, yet staying positive can take someone a long way.  Personally, I have decided that if a nipple of mine is kind of jacked up, or even falls off, I will just get medical tattooing and be done with it.  If I'm not please with the results, I will get a revision whenever I can afford it.  Prayerfully, it won't come to that, but it if does, then big deal.  It happens.

Sorry I just went off into a tangent there, lol!

I believe that plastic surgeons should NOT take patients who may have unrealistic attitudes. Of course, they don't necessarily know who those people might be which is the reason for all the fine print, which guys need to READ before they have the surgery (and not as an afterthought).

You can't expect to be many pounds overweight, and expect a moob-less body because the human body doesn't just put away flesh and hide it somewhere. It's why cis guys have moobs. (Also someone like me, can't expect perfect pecs because I don't have any.)


--Jay