Quote from: DeanO on November 06, 2007, 01:01:08 AM

yeah. Women are gross.

whooaa hold on bro.  we're talkin about bathrooms not women.  there are many ladies here.  to say that women are gross aint cool & very messed up u dig?

Valetnina: no, this topic is a waste of KB...
Chris: so lovely defending girls, but its fairly accurate

I'm really pleased this has proven to be such a popular topic. Over 1000 views! 

But I think it has had it's dash, with the majority saying that women's bathrooms are generally cleaner, but also a dirty bath room is a dirty bathroom regardless of who's it is. I think it has all been said already,

Lets all just agree to just stop posting anymore...

I share bathrooms daily with women and they are all pretty much clean. What I would like to discuss, at the risk of losing my 1 and only reputation, is high school bathrooms.

I worked as a part time janitor at my High School and while all the bathrooms on that floor were gross the girls were extra nasty. They would stick soiled tampax (pads) on the walls, floor, toilets...everywhere. Instead of rolling them up in paper towel they would just use that sticky pad and place them where ever. It would seem most of them were heavy flow days and they didnt want to touch them to roll them up to dispose of them properly?? It really made me sick to my stomach. Since tampons became more widely used and are flushable I'm sure its not such a huge deal these days...but back in the 80's those pads were everywhere.

Yes I had to clean both bathrooms on that side of the hall and the boys room had pee and special slogans of "colorful metaphores" written everywhere and they couldnt find the trashcan for the papertowel to save their lives and they were the worst about flushing poop. But somehow it wasnt nearly as gross as the girls bathrooms.

Quote from: Rachael on November 07, 2007, 07:56:25 AM
Chris: so lovely defending girls, but its fairly accurate

that aint the point though.  the topic is Bathrooms -which are cleaner M or F? the transgendered perspective.  it aint about women being gross.  theres a diference & to say that women are gross is cold! there aint another way around it.  were suppose to talk about 'bathrooms' & not 'women' or 'dudes'.  theres a big diference when u say, 'women bathrooms are gross' & 'women are gross'.  see what I mean? & when a dude says that.  its messed up!

suppose...
but does this have anything to do with a transgender perspective? do we have uber vision? or great wisdom? no, this topic would get the same results on a non trans forum...

R

maybe not,  we just gotta watch what we say.  ladies get away with lotsa stuff but dudes.  I dunno.

Quote from: Rachael on November 07, 2007, 11:32:04 PM
suppose...
but does this have anything to do with a transgender perspective? do we have uber vision? or great wisdom? no, this topic would get the same results on a non trans forum...

R

Well, I think the idea was to ask folks that have more then likely used both restrooms at one point or another, on a non-trans forum, there wouldn't be that comparison.

and the m2fs will love the ladies room, and the f2ms will love the mens room and both will diss the previous...
sometimes i think the non transgender perspective is a LOT clearer in most things.
R

One twist I'll mention is that while the women's room in my office is WAY cleaner than the men's room, I'll admit that may not carry over to public restrooms in general. I really haven't used enough public women's rooms to say.

BUT, while the men's room at work is... well... gross, lol... the women's room looks pristine. I know *I* never leave it without making sure I don't leave anything messy, and it's obvious everyone else *cares* too. It seems more like a social thing, since we all share it, there's a motivation to keep it nice for the next person since we're all friends.

I dunno if guys think that way or not, lol...

~Kate~

I forgot how men washrooms are like.

Having not only used, but cleaned both, l would have to say they are about equally dirty (or clean), but l do favor the flowers and sitting areas and conversation is the womens room. Not to mention the private stalls!

after being in a club loo tonight, WOMENS AM WIN.... a space of sanity and calm, screw how clean, screw how nice... it was quiet, had a cubicle, and a mirror, im happy... whats the damn debate?
if any debate should be had, its 'whats worse, using the mens quick, or using the ladies after a 10 min cue!
R

The condition of any public washroom largely depends upon where it is located.

The women's rooms in two supermarkets that are used like Grand Central Station, both in less prosperous sections of town, tend to be pretty grody and smell awful.  Blocked toilets, some sort of fluid on the seats that might not be water, hand towels all over the floor, ewwwwwww all the way.

I see many possible reasons for such a mess, like moms taking little boys to the potty and the kids piss and miss; the toilet is already a mess and someone has assumed the "Toronto Airport Position," squatting above the bowl to avoid the unknown stuff on the seat and splashing or spraying the seat; and just plain "It's not my bathroom" as a reason to leave a mess.

Wal Mart, K Mart, supermarkets, and many gas bars have the worst potties around.  Among the best are medium to upscale restaurants, auto dealerships, and government buildings accessible by the public, like a courts building.

Men's rooms aren't really in my bailiwick.

Wing Walker

I don't have the experience of both to put in a perspective here, so let me just mention that one of the worst cases for men's bathrooms is at large chess tournaments.  I've been to quite a few.  They have equal numbers of men's and women's bathrooms (one or at most two of each easily accessible from the tournament hall) for a decent-sized population (hundreds up to well over a thousand) of around 90% or 95% men.  Also, a lot of these tend to be men who don't take great care of their bodies.

So what I've gathered from this thread is that women's bathrooms are much cleaner on average, but also can be much worse.