The cloths fit better and feels so soft, like a soft hug
Mens cloths always bunched up and feel uncomfortable...

Yeah like others say, I feel more relaxed and pretty and just overall better.   

-Jade

The most that I have been able to get my wife to accept is a few items of unisex appearing female clothing. I would like to find a way to get her to be accepting of even more feminine items.

I am of average size and should be able to wear most female clothing in large or extra large sizes; medium sizes might even be possible in some items.  More options might even be possible if I didn't have that male thing.

I must admit I was aroused once or twice very early on but after that I just felt normal. However clothes that didn't fit made me really unhappy. I then bought my own and found out no one really cared what gender clothes I bought. Now it's just my daily routine and I don't even give it a second thought.  I wear what is practical, what is comfortable and what makes me look good.

Nothing. Clothes do nothing for me. Never have. I don't give a ->-bleeped-<- about clothes or products marketed toward one gender or another. To me, it sounds like you have some kind of fascination with something. I really think you could benefit from some therapy. Not everyone with gender atypical behavioural compulsions is suffering from transsexualism. There are a lot of ways for you to enjoy your compulsions without transitioning medically. I'm not saying you aren't transsexual. I am saying you seem very confused and should talk to a therapist about it.

I didn't used to either, but the more I embraced being transgender the more I started to love them. At first it was just going to be dresses, but I wasn't going to go for the shoes. Now I love shoes too. Its funny I'm starting to check out girls not because they're hot, but because OMG look at her outfit (or shoes). I still check them out for being hot, but it seems to be less important than the outfit and shoes.

Quote from: Isabelle on March 17, 2015, 03:53:03 PM
Nothing. Clothes do nothing for me. Never have. I don't give a ->-bleeped-<- about clothes or products marketed toward one gender or another. To me, it sounds like you have some kind of fascination with something. I really think you could benefit from some therapy. Not everyone with gender atypical behavioural compulsions is suffering from transsexualism. There are a lot of ways for you to enjoy your compulsions without transitioning medically. I'm not saying you aren't transsexual. I am saying you seem very confused and should talk to a therapist about it.

^ i do that sometimes too especially hair. Im big into hair though, like its the only beauty accessory that matters.

The hairstyle I want right now is blonde dreadlocks or long witchy red hair.

Or Shania Twains brown hair.

Me too. I've been obsessed with hair for years. I also just colored mine and absolutely love it.

Quote from: Wild Flower on March 17, 2015, 04:01:53 PM
^ i do that sometimes too especially hair. Im big into hair though, like its the only beauty accessory that matters.

The hairstyle I want right now is blonde dreadlocks or long witchy red hair.

Or Shania Twains brown hair.

Maybe it's just my personality but, I've never been able to stand it when people go "ohhhhh my god, shoes!/hair/clothes!... Etc". It isn't normal. It isn't real and it makes me question their intellectual capacity.

 

There is no reason to express options in an aggressive way.

Some woman like clothes some don't, women are not defined by what they wear please respect choices.

Cindy
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Quote from: Isabelle on March 17, 2015, 04:15:11 PM
Maybe it's just my personality but, I've never been able to stand it when people go "ohhhhh my god, shoes!/hair/clothes!... Etc". It isn't normal. It isn't real and it makes me question their intellectual capacity.

You're quite particular sweety!

I was talking about people. I never once mentioned women. I'm not being aggressive. I'm being honest. i find affectation distasteful. Especially when it's being used to police human behaviour. All these lovely shoes and clothes and glittery pony toys are a product of post war industrial design philosophy. To this day, it poisons the environment and human culture. It promotes greed, division, slavery, destruction etc. I could go on but, it wouldn't make a difference.

Quote from: Jade_404 on March 17, 2015, 02:55:50 PM
The cloths fit better and feels so soft, like a soft hug
Mens cloths always bunched up and feel uncomfortable...

Yeah like others say, I feel more relaxed and pretty and just overall better.   

-Jade

I feel you girl!

I spend a lot of time recently going over in my mind just how I would like to present at work, my image.

I work at a conservative Enterprise and as such "uniform" clothing or a pseudo clothing cast and behaviors are a reality.

I was at a leadership briefing today. Approximately 80 to 90% are female and 10 to 20% are male. It should be simple but it is not. There are levels within management and the clothing defines roles. When I spoke to an HR ally a month ago she mentioned how I wanted to present. I went over how I saw myself within the organization. She commented and gave some advise, good advise. I perceived myself at a lower level of clothing than did she. There is one level of style higher than I in the Enterprise. So today I looked at those at my level and how they dressed. What I like is there is so much variety and the variety expressed somewhat how that person perceives themselves or want to be perceived.

Clothing at work is an expression of role and status. With woman's clothes it has an added dimension of how they see themselves or want to be seen.   

Cynthia, thanks for your post, you made me think. I was worried that I might wear something inappropriate for my station. But I have ambitions too. I had never considered that hierarchal structure before.

Back on topic. Clothes are sometimes a mood elevator for me too. I had a couple of moments at work that left me a bit down so when I got home, before showering, I threw on a skirt while I checked my messages. It brought me back up and I was able to shake some of the negativity out for a bit. Until I got in the shower. But now I have painted my nails so I feel much better!

it just feels right, I can't really explain it, but the first time I put on women's clothing, a cloud of depression lifted just a little bit. I feel less awkward (unless I have made a terrible fashion choice). It is so much about what I feel, its about what I don't feel (awkward, out of place, depressed) for what seems like the the first time in my life. It is mostly positive, but I can also get frustrated. I was trying on clothing yesterday, but i was untucked, I felt I really wanted the butcher knife in my hand at the moment. Fortunately I am not 5 years old, and I understand that I shouldn't slice off the tissue needed to make the right parts in future. I simply feel less awful in women's clothes.

Hi,

When you base happyness on things ,what happens to you when you dont have those things ,

What i hear and see in so many is with out ...THE... clothes makeup shoes and adornments , you and many others dispise your self , so how do you feel about your self as a person  for the moment forget this male and female side of the issue  ,

where are you in all this look at it this way stand alone no clothes on or adornmenets  how do you then feel about your self are you happy in who you are , why so much hate why continuly  putting   your self down , yes iv heard all the comments and whys and so on ,

So you think just being a or like a woman will solve your problems and issues , or go talk to some one , you are the only one that can make you happy , you are the only one that will make it happen ,

I was percived as a male for many years ,and i never said a thing to any one for some 50 years  yet you know what im a female i was female from birth just was a bit different yet i was happy in my self and never wore female clothes unless i was dressed by others ,and i hated male clothes  with an all out ...HATE..

.and it still did not make me hatefull of my body or myself  ,because i knew my time would come when every thing was in place and ready for my body.s changes and to grow into a woman , i did not become like a woman i became who i have allways been and expressed that at the right time in my life ,,

Thers a time to be born  a time to grow and a time to live ,

Okay so you have been born   , now have you grown as a person  remember this is as i said not about male or female this is about you the person , where are you,    i dont hear about you,   what i hear is no confidence in you no self assurance of who you are  and you seem to be stumbling over the blockades in front of you .and no growth as a person , so may i surgest  that you have a think about what iv writen and start work  on you  who you are and put in place things that are going  to help you grow into   the person you ...NEED ...to become .

If you place your trust in clothes and feelings  then it,ll be short lived  and youll be disapointed  time and  time again ,

I  care less about clothes even though i make my own  take my clothes away all of them , the bottom line or bedrock is im a female   and a woman  no doubts and no regrets why ,

Because i accepted who i am what i am and that includes my issues and other problems  not perfect yet still accepted ,

...noelenna....

Quote from: Isabelle on March 17, 2015, 05:15:41 PM
I was talking about people. I never once mentioned women. I'm not being aggressive. I'm being honest. i find affectation distasteful. Especially when it's being used to police human behaviour. All these lovely shoes and clothes and glittery pony toys are a product of post war industrial design philosophy. To this day, it poisons the environment and human culture. It promotes greed, division, slavery, destruction etc. I could go on but, it wouldn't make a difference.

Yupp! Agreed. Let's not forget that, unfortunately, many of the pretty, fashionable clothes and styles that everyone goes bananas with are fabricated in countries that have really really low wage and their laborers have the poorest workplace conditions ever and they are paid God knows how much.

And, clothes do absolutely nothing for me. Obviously I'm not going to be an hypocrite and say I don't like nice clothes, but clothes don't make me happier or more at peace. It's just clothes.

Just to add... just grounding my reasons

I see three choices, Female clothing, Male Clothing and Androgynous clothing...

I hated buying Male clothing (even tho I had to at times (work)) casually preferring to look at mainly Androgynous clothing. I love buying and wearing female clothing as it seems natural to me... and now women's clothing fits better. and yes I do like fashionable clothing, I have Jeans, sweaters and hoodies for winter, mainly snow or street inspired, for casual... not too much smart or evening wear. For Summer short and long dresses, shorts and fashion tops, dresses are mix of casual and semi "dressy"... so I don't wear male or androgynous clothes unless I have to and then its more casual androgynous... do I like it/them no!

I buy what I like, price is not a driver and I am not an overly fashionista either (hope that's spelt right???) I buy what fits and suits me best...

Wearing women's clothing makes me feel free, comfortable in myself, natural and how about "at last this is me, what happened to all those years  " and now I can!

But I do love shopping and just looking in shops and online stores  ...apart from Susan's, music  and movies its my favourite pastime 

L Katy 

wearing women's clothing right now makes me a bit frustrated, because i feel really ugly. i'm not full time but i do practice putting outfits together for when I'm ready to start living life as michelle.

when i was younger kid i would dress in my mom's clothes and think that I was a girl, but now that I'm older, i just see a guy in the mirror staring back at me, and it makes me sad.

Quote from: Auroramarianna on March 18, 2015, 05:00:29 AM
And, clothes do absolutely nothing for me. Obviously I'm not going to be an hypocrite and say I don't like nice clothes, but clothes don't make me happier or more at peace. It's just clothes.

Women's clothing fits better and makes me look like I'm not crossdressed.  It also makes me feel safer because I was threatened on the street as a result of male fail.

But it doesn't excite me or anything like that.  Clothing is not my issue.  Other people around me were much more excited about me starting to wear women's clothing than I ever was. 

Quote from: marikvulpina on March 17, 2015, 08:18:29 AM
I haven't worn pants since.

I wear skinny jeans most of the time this time of year.  Occassionally leggings.  I find them comfortable.  In the summer I wear mostly shorts for casual attire.  I will throw in a skirt now and then or a dress, but I don't wear them most of the time. 

Wearing women's clothing doesn't have to mean wearing skirts and dresses at all times.  I am not suggesting that marikvulpina thinks it does, but I thought it was worth pointing that out.  I know trans* people have accused me from time to time of presenting male or masculine by wearing skinny jeans.  Tisn't true.  Go walk around a shopping mall sometime and have a look at what women wear.

And this opens an avenue that some people find helpful.  It is possible to go to the women's side of a store and pick up clothing that basically looks like women's clothing and that you can wear without anyone noticing anything amiss.  But yet it's from the women's side.  If you find that helpful, however, I wouldn't recommend skinny jeans for going unnoticed.