Quote from: Doc on November 09, 2007, 08:16:05 PM

Quote from: Id Est on November 08, 2007, 08:57:57 PM
I've done a lot of talking to my friends and most of them immediately thought along the lines "some rights are better than none", and I don't blame them it is not their personal issue, but as long as prejudice and discrimination is still legal that is not cool.

Eh, this idea that the trans-excluding version of the bill is a partial win just isn't so. Not from the point of view of transpeople. Gay, Bi and Lesbian people got a partial win. The house passed a bill that protects them from discrimination in the workplace, unless the workplace is a special workplace that's allowed to discriminate because the organization that runs it thinks that a giant angry beard in the sky wants them to be bigots. Yay, gay bi and lesbian people, you got some rights, and that's better than none.

Transpeople, however, got nothing. Not some rights that are better than none, but nothing.

You might point this out to your friends.

Imagine if the civil rights laws that are supposed to protect people against racial discrimination excluded Samonans.  Would that be a partial win for racial equality, or a big win for bigotry against Samonans?

Nice wording. Next time it comes up I will use that.

Hi Beverly,

   I understand how you feel.  My thinking is that we will need to regroup and work out divergent methods of achieving our goals.  Our rights.  Our destiny.


Stay strong,

Rebis

It looks like we may have a chance in the senate ENDA through Ted Kennedy

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,21973.0.html


Bev

Cindi, I couldn't agree more. This has proven that the LGBT community is weak and divisive. Just like our government. Just like our society. It will take years, maybe decades for anything to happen to favor Trans people in the eyes of Joe Public. By the way, folks, if there is a transgender day of remembrance service near you, please attend, if not, why not organize one?

Quote from: nickie on November 13, 2007, 02:34:52 PM
Cindi, I couldn't agree more. This has proven that the LGBT community is weak and divisive. Just like our government. Just like our society. It will take years, maybe decades for anything to happen to favor Trans people in the eyes of Joe Public. By the way, folks, if there is a transgender day of remembrance service near you, please attend, if not, why not organize one?

good idea.