I remember them getting in trouble under their original Scarborough fair name.

My oldest sister hates transgender people.  We do not talk.  She uses the term " lifestyle" to insult, belittle and deny my core essence.   She can't define the lifestyle thing either. 

Thank you Susan

Hugs

Jen

Quote from: JLT1 on March 21, 2015, 09:04:40 AM
My oldest sister hates transgender people.  We do not talk.  She uses the term " lifestyle" to insult, belittle and deny my core essence.   She can't define the lifestyle thing either. 

My family is like this also

I came back to this thread to where it was going...as soon as I saw "my own personal bible study", "leap of faith", and "savior" I knew this thread would be dead to me.

Quote from: Kova V on March 21, 2015, 02:42:26 AM
   
To preface this post, I will not be responding in this thread again. I'm saying my peace and then I'm going to eat some soup and going to bed.

You need to look at the context of what you're writing. It doesn't matter how politely you frame it. You are either unintentionally or subversively offending people. You may actually mean well. I can't speak to your true intentions, but this is how you are being perceived:

*warm smiles*
*insert condisending backhanded niceties*
*insert projection of personal view on other peoples situation*
*warm smiles*
"Well, they got mad at me for telling them they can be cured of their sickness. Even though I said it in a nice way."

Thats how you came across. Not cool Robert Frost.

Also, you don't define your term "lifestyle" and when you preface it as "tg lifestyle" I get have to wonder how my lifestyle is different from my cis neighbor. Life style dictated by our finances, our dwelling, our occupation, our age and our habbits. You attempted to lump everyone into a single lifestyle. That just illustrates a lack of understanding of how people live and function in the real world.

Before I step down from my soapbox I'd like to ask what is your intent by coming on this community site? Are you here for support? People come here to get support and we also support each other. I believe people are generally good, they want to be kind and helpful. The inquisition happened because the "church" wanted to save people's souls. Dont be an inquisition please.

Good night and good bye.

Well said.

They got me to pray the gay away twice and I came back to the fold. It was the most miserable time of my life. I finally had a breakdown and went into a psych ward where i got REAL help. My parents were forced into counseling before they could see me. Even then I could not face them, so the hospital kept them at bay for me.

My previous primary care doctor tried a version of this and saw it wasn't working and passed the buck off. Hence his chart notes he posted show this "refer to partner who has dealt with transgender issues.  Discussion of my own considerations as a provider, patients determination, etc., make this necessay,"
Mariah

I suppose the part that is frustrating to me is that this is a discussion we should have. We should discuss options because this is a serious proposition. The problem with this dude (sorry for not calling him they) didn't propose a single step to help make an informed decision. Believe me, I would never actively encourage someone to proceed with transition unless they were ready. And by the time people come here, they are pretty much in that mindset. So, for that reason I'm supportive. But I have made many posts to people cautioning them to be careful, seek quality therapy, and doctors concerning all the issues. I would never want to steer someone to something they don't want to do.

BUT... here's the thing. When I was being run out of Salt Lake City, I met with my CEO at work. He was also a fairly high up church leader. He told me the reason I wanted to do this was because I had been attending meetings and I had been convinced that this was what I wanted. My response? "If you attended a one hour meeting every day for a year about becoming a woman, would you be willing to cut your dick off?" And that pretty much left his mouth yammering for something cogent to say. It also ended the meeting.

Cindi

Great for you, that you're at peace with yourself.
But your insistence that being trans is a lifestyle choice is truly condescending. That right there, shuts down what could have been an open door to somebody seeking support for detransitioning.

I feel it is highly appropriate that this offer to "save" us nonsense was banned from a support site for transgender people.  There is a place here for detransitioning discourse.  That condescending and hurtful garbage has been around a long time.  I too have had family and friends offer to explain me as possessed by demons, confused and addicted to a lifestyle.  Trite, belittling and simply wrong.

So called "conversion or reparative therapy" is misguided at best and adds to the suicide and depression rates for us.  Oregon and other states are now looking at banning such medieval practices with support from medical and psychology folks.

Is not religion more a llifestyle choice being it is based on  a belief? 

I am confused thinking I destroyed a marriage that I was happy in at the time for a lifestyle.

Anyway I found my cure and to me I am would not trade if for all the written paper in the world .   

He seemed like an interesting guy to engage in conversation with.  I wish I could have done that before he was banned, so I could see where he was coming from. 


Oh, well.  It probably wasn't worth the stress to engage anyways.

So glad I'm in a safe place!

Ah. I missed the banning. Stupid Tapatalk app, I miss lots.

Therapy, blood tests, injections, electrolysis, surgeries, losing friends, marriages, jobs and family members, intentionally casting yourself upon the bottom rung of society and subjecting yourself to an increased likelihood of being destitute or beaten, raped and murdered...

And people call this a lifestyle?  Seriously? 

This is me steering away from a deathstyle.

Quote from: Jill F on March 22, 2015, 02:06:32 AM
Therapy, blood tests, injections, electrolysis, surgeries, losing friends, marriages, jobs and family members, intentionally casting yourself upon the bottom rung of society and subjecting yourself to an increased likelihood of being destitute or beaten, raped and murdered...

And people call this a lifestyle?  Seriously? 

This is me steering away from a deathstyle.

Thankfully, I did miss the being murdered part. I've been raped a few times, nearly beaten to death, heavily discriminated against, and paid 3 times the going rate for child support.  I went through some tough times. I am very thankful that times have changed and transgender children are being encouraged. I believe our society is coming around to acceptance generally. There will always be those who will disagree in a violent way. Sometimes, I wish I had been born twenty years later. But then, of course, I would have missed the moon landing with Neil Armstrong.

You know what I don't get? If some men are so dead set against us.... why would they rape us? I've never been able to understand that.

Cindi