Quote from: Matthew on October 10, 2014, 02:07:38 PM
I loved it, they were able to make a joke out of it, while not laughing at trans people (if that makes sense).
I think we should laugh at it, they did, in their own special way, push in some education and stuff that was good for trans people.
I like the fact Cartman was reckoning he was trans, if it was an actual trans person it'd either look like they were going easy on us, and people would be like wtf, or they would go the other way and people would freak.
I think they handled it well and I laughed so hard at some o' the stuff

-Matt

It's hard for me to get into South Park these days. Not because of the trans thing, though. I just think that their best days are long behind them. I think it was the end of the second season or the  beginning of the season when I got into it. By the second half of season nine, I was losing interest fast. The show just didn't have the appeal that it did in the past. Yeah, there has been the very rare episode since then that I could get into. But I can count them on one hand. I think the show has just long since run its course in my opinion. I didn't even know that the new run of episodes had begun until I heard the hoopla about this episode on other sites.

I saw this episode recently. I've not been a particularly avid follower of South Park in recent years but I was chuckling from start to finish.

I hesitated to watch The Cissy, with the ridiculous dolphin episode and all the Mr/Mrs/Mr Garrison stuff in mind. I was pleasantly surprised by the episode, in particular this at the end:

"The student body has elected to get rid of the transgender bathroom, and give any student the right to use the bathroom they feel most comfortable in. [crowd cheers]. Anyone who has a problem sharing a bathroom with people who might be transgender will have to use the special designated bathroom designed to keep them away from the normal people who don't care."

(bold mine)

This, right here, says a lot about the makers' current view of the issue. That the weird thing is that anyone would give a crap about the genitals of the person in the next stall. Which is pretty weird. We're all in there to eliminate bodily waste, clean up, and get out. Some people act as if bathroom equality laws would negate laws against assault, indecent exposure, etc. Or that if any man really were creepy enough to cross-dress to sneak into a women's bathroom to commit sex crimes, that somehow he'd care about bathroom laws. "Oh well, I WAS going to put on a cheap wig and a dress to go assault someone in the women's bathroom, but it's against the law for me to go in there, so I guess I won't do it. Back to the drawing board." Logic, some people don't use it.

I really enjoyed this episode of South Park, as I always do. I think they do a great job of throwing humour into otherwise harsh or difficult topics. Though their previous dolphin episode wasn't the best representation of people struggling with trans issues, I don't think they meant any harm by it and simply didn't fully understand. I feel like they really put effort into seeing things from another perspective in this episode.

Personally, I really liked how it made Cartman out to be a big jerk (as always, lol!) for taking advantage of the struggles people go through being trans. I'm also glad Randy played a big part in this episode, it sorta softens the blow to anyone who may get offended because Randy always just seems so innocent, naive, and flat out dumb at times. Opposed to Cartman who is well, Cartman XD

Quote from: blink on November 11, 2014, 01:20:49 PM
I hesitated to watch The Cissy, with the ridiculous dolphin episode and all the Mr/Mrs/Mr Garrison stuff in mind. I was pleasantly surprised by the episode, in particular this at the end:

"The student body has elected to get rid of the transgender bathroom, and give any student the right to use the bathroom they feel most comfortable in. [crowd cheers]. Anyone who has a problem sharing a bathroom with people who might be transgender will have to use the special designated bathroom designed to keep them away from the normal people who don't care."

I was horrified by the dolphin episode. I normally like South Park, but that episode ruined it for me. I did watch The Cissy episode, and I view it as a step toward making amends for the dolphin episode. I'm still upset about the dolphin episode though.

So I am into furry art and know a lot of people through that community- am I the only one who took the dolphin ep they did as a riff on furries and not transgender?  Garrison's whole deal was not necessarily kind either, but I didn't even think of the dolphin thing as mocking queer people but the kind of furries who tell people they are not human, they are "dragon trapped in a  human body" or some similar deal. eh, just my thoughts about that particular ep.

Trigger warnings for discussing bathroom debates to follow:

Ok, even without fully finishing the episode here is my 2 cents.  Simply It's Cartman. Cartman is a hateful little s*** in Southpark and regularly expresses his views in the most racist, mysogynist and horrible ways possible.  By using him as the "false" transginger, the creators are pretty blatantly mocking the idiotic idea that so called 'perverts' will use the protective laws that protect a transgender person's right to use the bathroom of choice as a personal advantage rather than simply using the restroom one's gender would dictate. Cartman is always the horrible, disgusting, lying jerk who will do anything he can to get his way, so basically if there's a message it's that any person who thinks someone will claim to falsely be a transgendered person simply for some kind of cheap personal gain, they are pretty much the most horrible person ever.  Additionally, they are massively mocking anyone who thinks a transgender person is 'wrong' or 'perverted' for being who they are.  Just my thoughts and interpretation as I don't feel any need to defend someone else's creation. 

I still watch it and it can still be funny, but I have to admit I hear a random quote from an old episode and I'll just start laughing hard. The newer ones no so much. Even if it was funny in the first place it doesn't generally stay funny. I had mixed feelings on this particular episode. However when I first was coming out even to my self last year the dolphin episode came to mind in a big way.

Quote from: Miss_Bungle1991 on October 10, 2014, 02:27:35 PM
It's hard for me to get into South Park these days. Not because of the trans thing, though. I just think that their best days are long behind them. I think it was the end of the second season or the  beginning of the season when I got into it. By the second half of season nine, I was losing interest fast. The show just didn't have the appeal that it did in the past. Yeah, there has been the very rare episode since then that I could get into. But I can count them on one hand. I think the show has just long since run its course in my opinion. I didn't even know that the new run of episodes had begun until I heard the hoopla about this episode on other sites.