Quote from: iKate on April 24, 2015, 10:32:49 PM
It was on ABC which is available free over the air with a digital tuner and antenna.

The family is going to be on GMA on Monday.

Well, it would be, but I've tried the tuner and antenna route. I had to return all 3 combinations to the store, and then they asked me where I live in my city, and they said, "Oh yeah, that's a well-known dead spot. We get returns from that area all the time."

Well it may end up online sooner or later.

Quote from: mrs izzy on April 24, 2015, 10:36:17 PM
Could you explain?

I heard more he an him and maybe a once in a while she or her.

As always no respect and she let the interview process that way.

Respect starts first and foremost with respect for who we are.

I cried but I cried for the community and her.

True but apart from the misgendering a lot of the stuff is dead on accurate.

However the part where Dianne is confused about sexual orientation is very misleading.

Quote from: mrs izzy on April 24, 2015, 10:36:17 PM
Could you explain?

I heard more he an him and maybe a once in a while she or her.

As always no respect and she let the interview process that way.

Respect starts first and foremost with respect for who we are.

I cried but I cried for the community and her.

Jenner apparently told her to use he/him for now, that was mentioned in the show. I imagine that this is all very difficult for Jenner being under so much scrutiny in their everyday life and knowing that people are following, even to the point of putting a tracker on the vehicle Jenner drives. Jenner is also not allowing themselves to be photographed dressed as a woman as Jenner needs to come fully out in their own way and time that makes them comfortable and we should respect that.

And really, its like Jenner is kind of separating Bruce from "her" like they are different people for now. Probably due to the extreme pressure put on by the media. Overall, I though the interview was good and positive and ABC did put some effort towards educating those watching, which is commendable.

I thought the interview was great and don't see how it could have the negative impact others think it did. Was it perfect? No. A lot was said that I could relate to. Like hearing personal stories of other trans people I have met.

Quote from: marsh monster on April 24, 2015, 10:46:36 PM
Jenner apparently told her to use he/him for now, that was mentioned in the show. I imagine that this is all very difficult for Jenner being under so much scrutiny in their everyday life and knowing that people are following, even to the point of putting a tracker on the vehicle Jenner drives. Jenner is also not allowing themselves to be photographed dressed as a woman as Jenner needs to come fully out in their own way and time that makes them comfortable and we should respect that.

And really, its like Jenner is kind of separating Bruce from "her" like they are different people for now. Probably due to the extreme pressure put on by the media. Overall, I though the interview was good and positive and ABC did put some effort towards educating those watching, which is commendable.

I get that as well. Also remember a lot of what they are describing is past tense so there is more "he" and "him" because that is what was back then.

Just my Own perspective I am giving.

I guess I read to much about people and our community and i feel so much right prospective lies in our own way we come out or be present in public.

So i do feel it was to wrong for being helpful for others to understand.

To many flags flying in different directions.

I can add a whole list to his but will not.

I so wish her the best and i know she will have a easier way through all the process then the teens who suffer everyday from bullying.

They are who i feel sad for the most.

So that is my prospective on the whole Jenner transition.

I think it is a good thing personally.  Could this actually be the most public coming out for a trans person ever? 

Also, hopefully this will stop all the stupid tabloid nonsense.  All of that was terribly hurtful and I even cried for her- even if I wasn't sure if she was trans or not at the time.  Even if not, it was hurtful to all trans people to report things in that way.  I don't blame her. 

What really surprised me was that she was on HRT for 5 years in the 80's, but ended up stopping it because it was too hard to come out in that spotlight back then. 

I think this will good for the community, honestly.  Yeah the misgendering was awkward and won't help, but that is how Bruce prefers to be referred to for now and that should be respected and that's what they did.  There isn't, after all, only one narrative that we all must adhere to in lockstep.  There is no one right way to be trans, and there's certainly no one right way to handle how one presents oneself early in transition.

The bigger picture is everybody everywhere is talking about transgender issues tonight, and surprisingly, I am seeing way more positivity than trolling.  A lot of that should be credited to Bruce for being vulnerable and relateable and human.

It's a good thing.  I promise.

this is going to be one of the biggest things for the community ever, maybe the interview could have been a little better maybe diane should have just realized she is a Lesbian and is attracted to women, thats the only thing that made me want to throw the remote at the tv.

but even tho we all have very different stories we all have alot of similarities in the end, im happy to see her finally come out and maybe more people in the world will start to think that we are not wierdos opr pedophiles that want to look at kids in the washroom

things are all up hill from here

Bruce tried to keep away from discussion of orientation which is good, might help people to understand that its not the same and as Bruce said, that isn't the issue they're dealing with currently. And if I recall correctly, Bruce did say they leaned more towards asexual at this point.

I am so pleasantly surprised. There were only a couple face palm moments for the entire two hours and a lot of good, accurate information. Considering the reality tv/tabloid nature of Jenner's celebrity, I am impressed how much of a authentic, human story they gave as opposed to a sensationalized one. I think this special is going to do far more good than harm.

And better yet, my interview on the local newscast afterward went pretty well too!

For many of the younger girls Bruce Jenner may not be as well known. My generation he was a hero. I need to be pushed to come out in my city, in Bangkok it's easy ...no one knows me. Next week will be interesting for me as the questions from my male friends and the friendly jokes will surface after his headline interview. I have only come out to my girlfriends. Next week with some strength from Bruce I will tell my male friends, just had a lunch with  global head of a major US bank and he was so supportive it brought me to tears. I will tell my best friend and one of my business partner next week ....He has asked a few times about Bruce so he senses it. It's going to be an interesting week ahead and I am prepared that there will be negativity. Like all of us after over 2 years on hrt we have this overwhelming need to come out. I personally feel that Bruce will be major boost for us

It's difficult for the younger girls to understand, but to come out as an older person who was a major Alpha male us much more difficult. So many male traits to let go of.......

I thought it was great.  I got a sense that it was not just to announce that Bruce is going through gender transition, but it was also a final time to reflect on his life in the past.  To help prepare people for the time it will not be Bruce and male pronouns.  I am sympathetic because Bruce is in very uncharted waters.  It is very tricky planning how to come out, being a male athletic hero and in the forefront of the media. 

They did an amazing job handling this. It was a fitting way to close one book to make room to write the next one.
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I recorded the interview and I will watch it later. From what I am reading here I am really anxious to see the interview.

 I was 14 years old in 78 when Bruce won the Decathlon. I remember watching it. I can't stand the Kardashians. Anyway, i'm nearly 51 now and I have always felt like a male in a female body. I've kept it to myself and tried to not acknowledge that part of me.

Bruce made me see that I needed to quit hiding and at least come out to those who know the struggles. I doubt I will ever come out to my family but I wouldn't be surprised if some of them started questioning me.

I really didn't pay attention when Chasity Bono did her transitioning to Chaz. I guess I was still in denial but Bruce opened my eyes up that if he could do this at 64 it wasn't too late for me. I really resonated with his feelings even though he is transitioning the opposite way.

I think he is a very brave person for doing this.

The TV interview went well. I just hated to see her dressed all drabby, ugly clothes. She should have dressed nicer & more of a woman, not the old person. Also she should have been more open about her GRS & looking forward to a nice normal vagina. Overall it went well I think.

Quote from: FrancisAnn on April 25, 2015, 06:44:03 AM
The TV interview went well. I just hated to see her dressed all drabby, ugly clothes. She should have dressed nicer & more of a woman, not the old person. Also she should have been more open about her GRS & looking forward to a nice normal vagina. Overall it went well I think.

Actually, I'm glad Bruce stayed away from a lot of that aspect of transition, we need to get people's focus away from genitals.

I felt the interview went extremely well. Bruce deflected a lot of the unimportant questions like sexuality and GRS, and was able to accurately show that he is just another emotional human being. He did say to refer to him with male pronouns for the time being and ABC did a good job teaching throughout the interview. His reaction to being asked if it was a publicity stunt was perfect.

I watched it with my grandparents and I did cry a few times. I am so happy he has the support of his family and can finally be his true self.