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HRT and the mind.....

Started by a112, April 25, 2015, 11:21:01 PM

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a112

My apologies if something of the sort has been posted in the past, which I'm sure it undoubtedly has.  My question is whether or not there are any changes to certain aspects of intelligence, particularly mathematics and spatial visual acuity, that comes associated with hrt.  I've read someone's anecdote in which this particular person stated that she was no longer able to park as well as she once did.  I can't quite tell whether this is just kinduva psychosomatic thingy or if it's a legitimate side effect of prolonged estrogen use.  Halp!
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Ms Grace

Hi!

Welcome to Susan's  :)  Great to have you here - looking forward to seeing you around the forum.

I'd say that if there was any effect it would be marginal and/or placebo in nature. I could draw, do sums and sudoku before HRT... still can!

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katrinaw

Welcome to Susan's...

I am not aware of any changes to the capacity of the mind, spatially or IQ wise... I certainly, mind wise, am as was... Certain other traits change slightly like a softer approach to everyday obstacles, a sort of calmness.

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suzifrommd

I've observed a similar effect to what you're talking about, both the parking (never was good at that to begin with) and my ability to concentrate. I used to be able to focus in on a task and block out everything else. I'm finding that harder to do these days.
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FrancisAnn

Yea it's strange stuff. Makes me want to try black nail polish sometimes even though I'm a red nail polish girl. Seriously I do not think it affects you unless you allow it to. I feel more calm, focused & more feminine which feels good & normal for me.
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Laura_7

There are people who report they see colours more pronounced than before.
Some even say their eye colour changed a bit.

The spatial thing might also be a matter of coordination of brain halves.
Imo parts might change, a part might be recovered by training. There might also be benefits, like a stronger intuition.

Things like intelligence can be to some extent trained. If people train before an intelligence test it has an impact on results.


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Rachel

My eyes are green blue with a dash of amber/brown. The blue green increased in brightness and I think I have a little more blue.

I am much calmer and at ease. So I can listen more, not jump to conclusions and think more before reacting. I deal with emergency situations periodically and I can remain completely calm during the events now.
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CollieLass

I found this research-paper interesting, as may some of you:

Quote"Changing your sex changes your brain: influences of testosterone and estrogen on adult human brain structure"

http://m.eje-online.org/content/155/suppl_1/S107.full


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girlygirl002

In the prospect of my Estradiol Valerate said: "Don't use it for increase brainpower" , so.. I guess maybe can help a little bit. Actually I don't feel that but maybe other person can. I hope it helps you with your answer.


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a112

Thanks, ladies!  I really appreciate it.  I'm glad to be in these forums amidst such kind individuals!  I'm just so afraid I might lose who I've become.  I just wish there were a machine that made me happy with who I am, whoever I am.....
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a112

Quote from: FrancisAnn on April 26, 2015, 04:50:43 AM
Yea it's strange stuff. Makes me want to try black nail polish sometimes even though I'm a red nail polish girl. Seriously I do not think it affects you unless you allow it to. I feel more calm, focused & more feminine which feels good & normal for me.

How frightening!  Black nail polish?!?  This is making me rethink hrt.
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Damara

Quote from: a112 on April 26, 2015, 04:44:18 PM
How frightening!  Black nail polish?!?  This is making me rethink hrt.

haha! I'm a black everything but silver nail polish kinda gal! ;)

Also, I was bad at math, directions, and remembering stuff before HRT.. still am! D: I'd be HAPPY if somehow hrt changed my brain for the better! haha!
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Bimmer Guy

Quote from: Laura_7 on April 26, 2015, 04:52:48 AM
There are people who report they see colours more pronounced than before.


Wow, this was exactly my experience, but I have never heard anyone else say this.  What type of HRT are you talking (estrogen, testosterone, both?).

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a112

Quote from: Damara on April 26, 2015, 04:48:29 PM
haha! I'm a black everything but silver nail polish kinda gal! ;)

Also, I was bad at math, directions, and remembering stuff before HRT.. still am! D: I'd be HAPPY if somehow hrt changed my brain for the better! haha!

I'm weird.  I'm good at maths, but strangely terrible at directions and memory stuff.  I just want to stay good at mathematics, since that is a field I have interest in!  Super weird, right?
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stephaniec

My hobby is mathematics, I find it helps me concentrate  better. the only problem I found is getting started with doing a problem, I have to jump start the machinery. because the HRT tends to relax me quite a bit , but once I get started it's a lot better.
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Mariah

Nothing weird about that all. It shouldn't have any impact on that at all.
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Quote from: a112 on April 26, 2015, 05:05:57 PM
I'm weird.  I'm good at maths, but strangely terrible at directions and memory stuff.  I just want to stay good at mathematics, since that is a field I have interest in!  Super weird, right?
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Kellam

I have only been on hrt for just under a month and while I have noticed many positive changes to my mind (calmness, confidence and greater emotional self awareness) there has been nothing else. I install contemporary art for a living and noticed no lacking in my spatial reasoning skills, nor in my maths. If anything I am more confident and take charge at work. E has only given in my case.
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Ian68

Quote from: CollieLass on April 26, 2015, 06:46:30 AM
I found this research-paper interesting, as may some of you:

Well, this article is terrifying...  And I had just decided to take T, dang it! :(

Not sure if I'm not supposed to post in here since I'm a guy but I saw the title of the thread, and was curious.  Sometimes, ignorance may actually be bliss... :P
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Dee Marshall

Quote from: Ian68 on April 26, 2015, 05:32:48 PM
Well, this article is terrifying...  And I had just decided to take T, dang it! :(

Not sure if I'm not supposed to post in here since I'm a guy but I saw the title of the thread, and was curious.  Sometimes, ignorance may actually be bliss... :P
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