Hey everybody! I haven't been on here in a while.... But lately I've been pretty depressed about not passing. I'm 6'2" and I weigh 140 pounds now. I'm pretty thin and don't have much in the way of cleavage... Ive been on hormones over half a year now and I don't know what to change to look passable... Please be honest, I have zero clue what to do :,( http://s288.photobucket.com/user/xxcarleykittxx/library/?sort=3&src=pb_unauth&page=1

Ok , brutal honesty , I see absolutely  nothing wrong.

You look like you pass just fine! The only "un-feminine" things about your appearance would be your flat chest and your height, but plenty of cis women are tall and/or flat-chested, so that isn't a major concern. Honestly, if I saw those photos and didn't know you were trans, I would've assumed you were cis because you definitely look passing.

The only other thing I can think of that might make you seem less "pass-able" would be your voice, since I obviously can't hear your voice by looking at pictures of you.

Well you clothes look somewhat androgynous, I would still gender you female... Why do you think you're not passable, is it yourself, or someone else?

Well everyone always says I'm passable, in those pics i only ever wore eyeliner, but for some reason I still get called He and Sir out in public, I dont understand it, I think i have female mannerisms 

When I saw your picture my jaw hit the floor as the thought went through my head "why the hell doesn't she pass??"

On a visual level i'd say you do pass 100% (at least you do in both those pictures), maybe there's something in your mannerisms or voice?
Height & breast size shouldn't prevent you from passing, the support worker I had last year was 6 ft like me & jealous of my measly chest but she'd never been miss gendered in her life
All I can suggest is to ask someone who knows you personaly & see what they say, i'm really sorry but I don't know what else to suggest

Carly,

I looked at your photobucket pic and you definitely pass. From a transgirl to another, I say you pass you definitely do pass even from a distance or a close look. I'm 4 weeks going into HRT and I do not have boobs yet. I'm older than you are I'm in my 30s. I could pass because I'm built like a little girl since I was small, that is my advantage, but not everyone's standard. You can definitely pass on many levels. But I still sometimes get mistaken as sir on the phone or sir by non-Americans (sorry I'm not racist, I do see people not from the US to be more observant of people's gender and they can tell who is guy in that dress) I have cases of middle eastern and pakistani people call me sir even when I told them I'm transgirl.

Who is it in society that is not allowing you to pass? Do you pass in the women's restrooom.
Sometimes, its all in the mind and the vibes we send out. You don't need to be flamboyant, just be yourself and the feminine beauty will show and that will pass. Just be careful when men start noticing because they can sense the feminine scent we transwomen give out and some of them get turned on by that and that gives them catcalls to us. Some men are ok with transgirls some are ignorant, just be careful. I ignore men I do not know.

You pass imo. That's the kinda look im going for tbh lol.
The voice maybe? It's hard to hear what you sound like through pictures if you know what I'm saying lol. But yeah you totally pass in my books. Do you skate/long board btw. Just curious.

Quote from: DelKay on April 28, 2015, 09:19:27 PM
You pass imo. That's the kinda look im going for tbh lol.
The voice maybe? It's hard to hear what you sound like through pictures if you know what I'm saying lol. But yeah you totally pass in my books. Do you skate/long board btw. Just curious.

Yes I used to long board, my long board got sold though, sadface. Yeah I think it's the voice... Idk I need to be able to change it but idk how

As far as looks you definitely pass. I know especially early on my voice gave me away so often that can be the reason. So if you think it's your voice, then it very well maybe. Have you tried working with your voice yet? Good luck and hugs
Mariah

You pass with your looks I would look at your voice or mannerisms as the possible culprits (if you get called sir on the phone its a good chance its your voice) 

Not only man mannerisms prevent someone in passing over act as a woman prevent many people  in passing too!  Hey Snackattack I agree with you about saying some people can not realize of find out who is Trans or not, In Brazilian they can very easily recognize a Brazilian trans but not so easy a foreign trans, here in Austria they are absolutely blind I have heard many times that my documents have an error cause it says "masculine " and then I have to say " no, my documents are all right I'm the one with error "  😊

I know this is going to go in contrary to what others may think, but what people see in your pics, may not be reflective of your real life situation. You need real life social support, ie., some female/trans friends, who can support you in your real life assessment, that way, you'll start to doubt yourself less, about who you are. Next best thing, is online, but that will only go so far, IMO. 

Carley, from your PS Piccies you pass 100%! agreed that if you hang around other females your self confidence and comfort will go rocketing up... That is if your not already, in that case for mannerisms etc. just take it all in and practise. I wouldn't worry about your bust, with some folks it just takes time, you'll get there.

L Katy

You visually pass in those pics but if you carry yourself like a guy and your voice sounds male you will be gendered male. Voice is the swing vote/deciding vote for many when their brain is deciding what gender you are. If there is any hint of doubt that you're female and your voice backs up that it is likely that you will get him, his, sir etc.

You are simply beautiful girl! I can't se anything wrong on you!

Maybe people know your past in your town/city because they knew you after your therapy replacement hormone.. but I only see an amazing girl..

Only I can say: You rock!

This is part of why I hate the whole "passing" thing: it is totally arbitrary sometimes.  That said, the *only* things that I can think of are your height and voice, ya know because clearly all cisgender women are 5'2" and sound like Minnie Mouse... *rolls eyes* Obviously, you can't change your height (nor should you need to), but you can do thongs if you feel that your voice is difficult for you.  If you have insurance, you could get a referral to a voice therapist; if not, there are apparently many instructive videos on YouTube(?).  Depending upon where you live, choir directors or academic musicologists or speech therapists may be willing to at least meet with you and help you make a plan.

Sorry you're having this problem.   I don't think you need to change anything.  As some other posters have said, you're a very pretty girl.  End of story.  If other people refuse to see that, there's something wrong with them, not with you.

Concerning voice, you could have a look here:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,184812.msg1643045.html#msg1643045

and for a few helpful thoughts here:
nyspeechandvoicelab dot net/transgender/voice-feminization/


hugs

Quote from: Laura_7 on April 29, 2015, 08:08:33 AM
Concerning voice, you could have a look here:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,184812.msg1643045.html#msg1643045

and for a few helpful thoughts here:
nyspeechandvoicelab dot net/transgender/voice-feminization/


hugs

Everyone thank you so much... Mentally this has been such a battle, even y long distance girlfriends friends and family see my pictures and go wow! She's pretty... And I do feel like I have a pretty(ish) face honestly... That's been my problem, I'm starting to be more comfortable with myself in the mirror and think if I had bigger boobs I'd love my body... But then I'd walk outside and get gendered male. It has to be my voice honestly, I had feminine mannerisms before I transitioned, and because of starting hormones at 16 my hips are growing and I can't walk from my shoulders anymore  ???I'm going to start working on my voice immediately, this was a huge confidence boost, thanks everybody 

You easily pass and I'm jealous