I just returned from my second home Thailand and while I was away the Vanity Fair article came out on Jenner. I was bombarded with texts from my girlfriends, relatives, and suprisingly all the men I came out to so far. I know many here think that his coming out in the public manner and style does not represent our community.  For me his coming out has been a blessing, we are the same age and share many similar traits and life styles. I just received a note from my sister in NYC telling me how her peers are so very receptive... kinda "in" to have a TG brother. Never thought that would happen. Seriously tho any publicity on us is good, there is this misconception amongst so many that we are hookers, perverts etc. . We are real people looking for a normal life ... so to spaek.

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Firstly, remember that Caitlyn uses female pronouns now.

Secondly, I definitely agree. Her narrative, while marred by the link to the Kardashians, is also massively publicly visible because of this, alongside Jenner's gold medal in the Olympics. One of my undergrads sent me a link to her coming-out interview because she said it had touched her so much, and Caitlyn's Twitter popularity shows just how massively visible she is right now.

Of course, her narrative--the money to transition, her extreme passability on the cover, etc.--is not that of most transwomen, and with more trans* visibility has come more transphobic retaliation (witness the great amount of transphobia lobbied at Jenner since the cover, such that a Twitter bot was designed specifically to target tweets that misgendered her), but I think this will all lead, over time, to a significant increase in normalisation of trans* identity for people who had never given much thought to us before. And that's a good thing.

I never realized that it would be as big of an issue. I was planning on bringing this up to my parents at some point as a gentle poke to discussion. My friends are mostly supportive (some are just doing the whole military comparisons which i don't doubt everyone has seen at least once). I hope this will help properly gauge their attitudes.

I am pretty much out to everyone now... and it has been mostly good.

I did "out" some total bigots among my "friends" though.

I think it will be a big help for me too, when I do talk to my sister. (fingers crossed)

I have come out to alomost 40 people mostly females. Some accepted at the begining then a few weeks later wanted to have a serious discussion with me, this was especially true with my ex lovers. I agree that there will be some bigots with my male frioends and also their wives but we all know we will have these idiots but at least now we have more support.

I use facebook once or twice a month besides messenger and was surprised today when I got on and literally half of what I saw was hate for transgender people. Idk what's going on with the jenner besides basics, but I know theres a crapton more hate for trans than I once knew

There has always been bigots in our society. Some are hateful and outright dangerous. What Caitlyn did could result in some targeted violence. It is such a threat to males and the ultra religious. I have an Australian tg friend who is from an Italian Catholic family. The way they treat her - father, brother, sister is so horrible and I feel so sorry.

We need to educate and maybe the next generation will face less prejudice. I don't think we can change too much on the older generation. There is so much liberalism in the younger generation and from what I hear from them I have great hopes.

Congratulations on coming out and I agree that Jenner's coming out was a blessing to all trans people because he's like the beacon of light lighting the way.

 

Please people rember that Ms Jenner identifies as female. Her pronouns are female. She, her. Etc.

On this site above all we respect gender identity.

If a person identifies as male we use male pronouns, for women, female pronouns. Nonbinary  people are referred to with gender neutral pronouns unless they ask otherwise.

In everyday life if you are in doubt you ask a person which pronouns to use. You respect their wishes.

That is common courtesy.

Thank you.

Cindy.

It's been somewhat helpful to me too. People that have a problem with it are much more vocal and no longer on my friend list while I've found allies in people that I had no idea were supportive before.

The focus on her appearance has caused some problems for me though. Some friends that seemed supportive now seem to think I should be okay with just crossdressing (not to put anybody down that does) and they are actually getting angry at me for not seeing that as an option. The women come in all shapes and sizes, some don't have breasts, etc. speeches have been coming out of the woodwork. It's like I'm finally at a point where I can pursue that lifelong dream and my supporters are trying to stop me from doing it. I guess the phrase "you have to be selfish" makes more sense to me. Everybody's opinion now seems to be "what's best" for me except my own.

I do kind of feel bad for her though. The whole world knows about her past. We get worried when people we don't know might have clocked us. She's going to have to deal with people she doesn't know intentionally misgendering her just to be hateful. I wouldn't want that for anybody.

Me too, it reLly was great for me
Dodie

It's weird for me because I'm out to all the important people in my life, but I have yet to come out to a lot of family & friends, let alone work.  So I wonder how much I'll be compared to Caitlyn.  Probably a lot.  It's great that she's brought trans issues to light, but it's also brought a lot of transphobia to light, too.  I guess it makes it easier to know who to come out to. [emoji1]

I have to share this actual conversation I had today:
"Did Bruce... Caitlyn Jenner have, y'know, the surgery?"
Me: Not yet.
"Then, why is he... she so smooth down there?"
Me: It's called tucking.
"Ewww."

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I didnt realize it..... until now but Caitlyn impact is almost as big as a presidential election.... she is saving hundreds if not thousands lives of trans people... because she made it a conversation. Laws policies perceptions will change

Her age speaks volumes too.

Quote from: Gabrielle_22 on June 04, 2015, 10:22:35 PM

Secondly, I definitely agree. Her narrative, while marred by the link to the Kardashians,

I dont know this family that well... but they all support her and love her. Something you never see but all his daughters respect her decision.