Looks really good so far, I'm sure you'll be really lovely when all the swelling goes away.

Take your time and try to relax and we'll all be here when you feel up to posting

Hugs

Sorcha 

Congratulations! Can't wait to see the changes! Hope all is healing well and you're in good spirits HUGS

   Thanks everyone for the well-wishes/congratulations. The pain and swelling is finally starting to really subside. Dr. Rossi just came by my apartment for a visit to check on me, which was awesome. He's just a really good guy, and both my partner and my mother who came agree that he was a very good choice for surgery. So far I highly recommend him. No nerve damage as far as I can tell. Sensation is coming back everywhere, with tingling and little shocks, which is especially great considering he did a lot of jaw/chin work.

   My forehead is so much flatter now, it's crazy. Check the below X-ray. The bossing was pretty bad (you can see in my original post). He moved that back very far. He brought together my M-shaped hairline which is now a nice shape. No scar in front, he did a coronal incision stitched back with the trichophytic method, meaning hair should grow through the scar (I believe this is what Dr. Spiegel and many American surgeons do as well). My eyebrows also look really awesome. Not too high, not too low, just right. Since I have thicker eyebrows, he gave them a slight curve, leaving me with option to curve/thin them more on my own or keep them more straight/natural.

   I haven't seen the bridge of my nose yet, only through the cast. If it looks anywhere near as good as the slightly upturned tip, then I'm in a good shape. He was very aggressive, using open rhinoplasty to really reduce the overall size. I was told by a plastic surgeon trained by Ousterhout not to get a upper lip lift but Dr. Rossi said that I need to in order to balance out my face. He did a really great job with that as well raising it up mostly up on from the sides. The sliding genioplasty he did really reduced the height of my chin and face overall by a least a centimeter. Even with all the swelling, it looks shorter. He also moved my receding chin forward quite a bit, no implants necessary. My profile looks much better than before.

My new profile:



X-ray(check out the bossing that goes on for my entire forehead and long, boxy chin):



I'm wearing a compression mask to keep the swelling at bay and also because I did neck lipo. The lipo is actually very painful - I thought that soft tissue work might be less drastic and painful but that's not the case at all. I have a yellow bruise running across my entire neck, right on the tracheal shave they did.

I'll post some more pics on the bridge of my nose when I have the cast removed and some swelling goes down. I'm really happy I chose Dr. Rossi. The price was perfect but it will go up as more people know about his amazing results, either through their website t-change.com or on these forums.

Hope that was informative, maybe to help someone on here to feel better choosing Dr. Rossi. Buenos Aires is beautiful Staying here for a month, soon I'll be out and about, vacationing and enjoying the city, which is like a mix of New York City with Italy, but way cheaper. Lots of pain, lots of gain Time for some fun. Can't wait to see Charlotte again from these forums, so happy we got to hang out. Shout out to her; she's super nice, smart, and beautiful! Her tips for navigating the city have helped me a good deal, so anyone going read them all. I highly suggested meeting people on these forums if you go around the same time.

- Ruby Aliza

One more thing - I think I should give credit to Dr. Rossi's entire team. I met them and they are humble, but top-notch. The anesthesiologist is so good I actually had good dream during the surgery and Dr. Rossi's wife, an oral surgeon, plays an important role in making sure the incisions in the mouth are perfect and that there is no nerve damage to the chin/jaw. She even does dental work! She shaved down my two front teeth to make them shorter, rounder, and more feminine in general, which made a big difference in my smile.

When I hear of the Facial Team in Brazil and Spain, I think to myself that all these surgeons mentioned on this board are "facial teams." The surgeries are so highly complex that many talented people must be involved.

-Ruby Aliza

Your profile looks great- I mean, just perfect!!

The jaw can't really be seen, but judging from the facemask it should be of the perfect proportions.

There is some swelling in my neck and I only wear a compression band a few hours a night, so I won't be posting a profile anytime soon. My jaw is gross lol.

Anyway, I am also eagerly waiting to meet you again! Note to other forum readers: it is a lot of fun to make a friend on the forum, but even more so to meet in the real life! And Ruby, let me return the compliment: you're extra nice, smart and at least as beautiful! I am totally jealous of your frame, skin tone and texture :-)

May I inquire ballpark what you payed?

amazing result!!! What is the cost for all you have done??

Hey All,

      For anyone wanting to know the price, please seek a simple consultation with Amanda at T-Change. She'll give you the most up to date prices. I will say it's very competitive, and in my opinion, the best deal you can get anywhere. Of course, when you are getting surgery, don't just look at the price, but the results. I am personally very happy with mine so far. However, I do understand that trans girls are often in a budget crunch so we need a good deal too

      Feeling even better today. The swelling goes down visibly every day, but it will still probably take 6 months to see the full results. Since my (real) hair is still super short, I will wait to post a day-to-day picture of myself.

Its good you are getting better.

Keep us posted, also about your excursions .


hugs

Amanda is very quick to reply.  Best thing to do is follow the directions on the t-change website.

Quote from: RubyAliza on June 09, 2015, 09:24:08 AM
Hey All,

      For anyone wanting to know the price, please seek a simple consultation with Amanda at T-Change. She'll give you the most up to date prices.

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Amanda is awesome and extremely efficient. The price from Dr Rossi was the best I've been quoted even though he has said he'll be the most aggressive of the 3 surgeons I've consulted. He's also cleared me for surgery based on my answers to the medical questionnaire Amanda sent to me. Let's see what Dr Z says later today and then I can make a decision

Hugs

Sorcha 

Please do let us know what your decision is! Or you could PM if you have any specific questions regarding Rossi I might be able to answer. I'm interested that it is between these two. I would think the price difference is relatively large because of the strong dollar at the moment . Even though I live in the US, I still couldn't afford Zukowski, who is of course very good. Whatever choice you make, you're in good hands.

Quote from: RubyAliza on June 09, 2015, 06:41:07 PM

Please do let us know what your decision is! Or you could PM if you have any specific questions regarding Rossi I might be able to answer. I'm interested that it is between these two. I would think the price difference is relatively large because of the strong dollar at the moment . Even though I live in the US, I still couldn't afford Zukowski, who is of course very good. Whatever choice you make, you're in good hands.

I will definitely update you yes I have sent you  PM as well so thank you for the kind offer of help. I am really interested in how Dr Z can do the things he says without major incisions so I'm hoping he can enlighten me about that. His price may well be the stumbling block but we'll see in a few weeks when the quote comes. Right now I am fairly sure I know where I'll be going but I'm doing what many have advised and researching all my options

Hugs

Sorcha 

Well, as he conveyed to be in conversation, Dr. Rossi also does everything with the minimal amount of visible incisions possible.  He may presently be cheaper, but from what I've observed, he's at level with the very best, and I'll be able to see that first hand when I have my own ffs in early August.

As promised an update from the chat with Dr Z, I won't publicly state the amount he quoted as that is unfair on him in case it puts folks off even seeking a quote. 

His opinion of my face was by far the most detailed of all I've received, He wants to do procedures I'd never heard of and he was really detailed in his explanation of how he'd perform them. He is the only surgeon so far to have mentioned the fault I know exists with my nose and he is also the only one who commented on what I believe to be my best facial feature. His work is designed to enhance that part as well as make my whole face and neck physically smaller.

I am considering writing a thread here explaining what has been suggested by the 4 surgeons and seeing what those who've been through it think is far enough for me to go. I am also considering asking the Dr I'd previously settled upon to give and opinion and a price for the extra work Dr Z mentioned because I'm rather tempted to wonder just how different I'd look.

Anyhow I will do some deliberating and keep watching the site and see what people say in their threads.

Hope recovery is still going well Ruby and you're feeling fit to go exploring soon

Hugs

Sorcha 

Ruby, tomorrow will be two weeks right? how are things going?!

All the best!

Hi Ever,

       Nice to hear from you Today is two weeks and I've recovered pretty well. I am still swollen enough that I will wait until the two month mark to post more pictures. There is one more update I will mention; I am very happy Dr. Rossi chose a coronal, behind the hairline incision. Already, it's practically invisible and hair will go through the very thin scar. Unfortunately though I had a relatively bad M-shaped hairline that you can't see in my pictures and he could not pull the hairline forward while closing those up. There would be too much tension in different directions. I had to choose one or the other and I chose to close them up.

    The result is that my face looks great but the sides corners of my hairline read either male or make me look like I am 40. So I made a last minute decision to get hair transplants right before I leave. I have an appointment to do it tomorrow, but Amanda might be able to find me a better doctor for a better price The point is if you have the same problem I highly recommend you get hair transplants. The hairline is so much more important than I realized at first.

Other than that I am very happy I am now Ruby forever without having to get super dolled up. I am so excited for you and everyone who has this amazing opportunity. It may be the most painful experience of your life, but I am telling you, it's totally worth it Hopefully you're a masochist like me.

- Ruby

Hello,

     Thought I would post a minor update. As I mentioned in the previous posts, I am happy with my surgery. But the warnings doctors often give ffs patients about feeling depressed after surgery is true; I felt down because of all the pain, swelling, lack of energy/exercise, and normalcy of day-to-day life. Not sure if anyone else here felt the same after surgery but it's a very real phenomena that girls on this forum should not dismiss. especially if one has a history of depression or anxiety. Be diligent and remember you'll feel better very soon. Stay in touch with family, loved ones, and friends.

    I wanted to update my thread with info on my hair transplants. If the hair grows out just as it looks now (still scabbing), then it will have made an amazing difference. Seriously folks, consider it as an option to pulling the hairline down surgically. I asked Dr. Rossi to focus on rounding out the hairline and fixing the shape, so that the transplant surgeon could add a very feminine hairline that is a lot lower and naturally shaped. It looks great, better than possible through a hairline correction through ffs. The shape can literally be customized exactly the way you want it, unlike a surgical correction in which the hairline cannot be pulled in  ways that cause tension in multiple directions. Also, the scar behind the hairline is practically invisible. My transplant surgeon complement Dr. Rossi on his work. Transplants require a bit more patience though. The hair will fall out before it starts to grow again but should come back in 6 months. Here in Buenos there are many skilled transplant surgeons at affordable prices even less than places like Mexico (cheaper than Cardenas - I paid under $2000 for more than 1000 grafts).

    Dr. Rossi is coming by to see me one more time before I leave on Wednesday. I'm sad to be leaving, really. This city is incredibly beautiful. The food is great, the people are so nice, and the city feels like an eclectic mix of modern and old European style urban environments. Finally, I am going to miss Amanda so much. If I lived in this city, I would totally want to be good friends with her. She's so funny, honest, and full of wisdom. My partner and I have decided that we are definitely coming back to t-change which she runs with Dr. Rossi and his team. I will be getting body contouring, which one of Dr. Rossi's assistant surgeons, Dr. Angel Appiani, is highly skilled at doing (I met another girl here who got work done and she was very happy). Most likely I will want a second round of transplants too. So this will only be a temporary goodbye until next year hopefully, my budget permitting.

    I'll hopefully post more updates in the future but if anyone has any questions at all, feel free to message me. I've got quite a few messages already and I've answered every one as quickly as possible. So many nice people on this board Bye ya'll, until the next time!

- Ruby Aliza

   

Have a safe trip home! I also felt some depression after surgery because I wanted so badly to feel normal again, but also because in my heart (in my case) I knew the surgeon hadn't done what I really needed. I was happy things looked better, but not happy because I knew the mark had been missed. I'm glad that wasn't the case for you, I can't wait to see you all healed up! And don't worry, you'll be feeling back to normally after some months, it will go by, just live your life and let healing happen <3  -J

It WILL happen, don't worry!