Sarah : Yeah, I can't imagine anyone *wants* it! I have no idea what Brassard does differently, if anything, but I can attest that a) he does remove the hair follicles and b) at least in some cases it works well.

He does say he does basically penile inversion, with the scrotal and perineal skin grafts for added depth.

So weird....why don't all surgeons scrape the follicles off!?

*shrugs*

Quote from: SarahSchilling on March 05, 2015, 08:22:16 PM
So weird....why don't all surgeons scrape the follicles off!?

*shrugs*

I'm a bit (lot) of a cynic, so I think of it this way.

Why don't people stop going to these surgeons?

Its not very nice, but they don't need to do it. With people queuing up for surgery its hardly their problem.

It would be more effort for them, and in the USA its expensive work. Customers don't seem to mind so why bother.

Quote from: AnonyMs on March 05, 2015, 09:39:25 PM
I'm a bit (lot) of a cynic, so I think of it this way.

Why don't people stop going to these surgeons?

Its not very nice, but they don't need to do it. With people queuing up for surgery its hardly their problem.

It would be more effort for them, and in the USA its expensive work. Customers don't seem to mind so why bother.

This is likely the reason. It irritates me, but you're right. None of these surgeons are struggling to get clients, so there's not much motivation to change things.

I'm glad my chosen surgeon doesn't require electrolysis down there though! lol

Quote from: SarahSchilling on March 05, 2015, 08:22:16 PM
So weird....why don't all surgeons scrape the follicles off!?

*shrugs*

Because some don't want to risk compromising the blood supply to the scrotal graft by scraping the follicle or applied electrocautery. It's a per surgeon thing depending on their training and procedure.

So BrenB I would also like to know why you chose Dr Kuzon. I'm in the U of M program and am waiting to get scheduled with him for bottom surgery. But I also don't know anyone who has used him and have not found much online about him. You mentioned you have settled on him and I wondered if you could share why?

I have specifically addressed this with 3 Thai surgeons, an Australian and a USA surgeon. So here is the simple answer.

You do not need to do electroysis or laser in the scrotum and penile shaft. It would be helpful to reduce the amount of work during surgery as this is a careful and slow process. Generally, the surgeons in Thailand have and assistant that does the prep work, which includes the scraping of the hair follicles, the Australian surgeon stated that electrolysis would reduce the time under anesthesia as they would have to do the scraping, and the USA surgeon had the same answer as the Thai's.

I suggest that you bluntly challenge these doctors that require electrolysis. Its barbaric and out of date.

Quote from: warlockmaker on June 08, 2015, 10:33:01 PM
I have specifically addressed this with 3 Thai surgeons, an Australian and a USA surgeon.

I'm impressed!

Its been a real issue with me and I have helped a number of ladies on this specific topic. I am disgusted with doctors that require this. Anyone that has gone thru this will tell you that its very painful. I just need to add that the Australian surgeon, basically admitted that it would take a longer time under anesthetic and that it is better to stay under for a shorter time -- but all he needs is an experienced assistant to do the prep work and save time.

Also I did not give the surgeons names to protect the innocent.....

I'm going to Bowers, who recommends but does not require electro.  She told me that the chances of growing hair inside the vagina are pretty low because she removes hair pre-surgically anyway, but that it's an added measure.

Another surgeon I heard present said that electro is good because the scraping/cauterization can reduce the sensitivity of the tissue by damaging nerves.

Bowers was one of those I questioned.

I had the same comment from the Australian surgeon. It was in his instruction book to have genital electro when I said yuk, he told me he should update the information as it was no longer necessary in his opinion.

That will work better for me.... the thought of electro "down under"  was never something I was going to relish - comforting now tho.

L Katy 

I had my op in February with Dr. Sanguan Kunaporn in Thailand. He does the op in two stages. The main op is followed about a week later with another one to graft the skin inside the vagina.  The skin they used is kept refrigerated from the previous week.
I was watching a nurse or doctor scraping the hair follicles off the skin while I was waiting for the second op to start. Very strange experience. I have hair growth down there but none inside my vagina.

I'm very paranoid about having hair inside since I have lots of hairs in those areas and reading personal accounts of girls still having hair down there makes me want to err on the side of caution and get some electro work done. With my spanish genetics I feel like I have to be extra cautious with this issue since I'm already still pretty hairy all over even though I've been on hrt for 3 years and T levels are super low. I've pretty much decided on brassard and he doesn't require hair removal but like I said I've read about post op girls from him having hair inside and so naturally I'm concerned, sigh 

I've had 3-4 sessions of laser there.  With just those sessions I have so little hair left in the whole area that I am now concerned that I won't have enough hair left on the sides to cover scars from the surgery.  My plan was to start electro there soon, but now thinking I shouldn't do that. I have a distant date set for Dr. Bowers, and am really warming up to the idea that I don't need to do the electro.