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Have you views of yourelf as transgender changed since begining HRT

Started by stephaniec, June 22, 2015, 10:13:34 PM

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Has your perception of being trans changed since being on HRT

yes , most definitely
13 (59.1%)
some what, but just more accepting of the concept
2 (9.1%)
not really ,but more peaceful
3 (13.6%)
no. I have the same perception of myself before and after stating HRT
3 (13.6%)
different answer then those above, please explain
1 (4.5%)

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Zoetrope

Hmm. I haven't forgotten old me at all.

John was my starting point. Zoe is a much more highly developed John, in every way. But I am still the same person.

Is this something to do with my androgynous gender identify? Possibly.


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stephaniec

For me I haven't really changed so much as personality . I'm still me, but that's because I've always considered myself non male. Estrogen has been the booster shot that I've needed all my life. My mind and body was running on a minimal percentage of the fuel it needed. I finally ran into trouble because my cells were starving as in trying to walk through the Sahara desert with a small canteen of water but my views of other trans seems to have radically moved forward and also more acceptance of myself belonging in the trans community.
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Kellam

Quote from: Zoetrope on June 23, 2015, 05:16:00 PM
Hmm. I haven't forgotten old me at all.

John was my starting point. Zoe is a much more highly developed John, in every way. But I am still the same person.

Is this something to do with my androgynous gender identify? Possibly.



Quote from: stephaniec on June 23, 2015, 05:37:46 PM
For me I haven't really changed so much as personality . I'm still me, but that's because I've always considered myself non male. Estrogen has been the booster shot that I've needed all my life. My mind and body was running on a minimal percentage of the fuel it needed. I finally ran into trouble because my cells were starving as in trying to walk through the Sahara desert with a small canteen of water but my views of other trans seems to have radically moved forward and also more acceptance of myself belonging in the trans community.

Yes to both of these. That is that whole becoming more myself feeling. The t flushed out with the fear and e slipped in in their place I am starting to know what it is to run on full power.
https://atranswomanstale.wordpress.com This is my blog A Trans Woman's Tale -Chris Jen Kellam-Scott

"You must always be yourself, no matter what the price. It is the highest form of morality."   -Candy Darling



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Carrie Liz

Absolutely.

Pre-hormones and pre-transition, I somehow had this view that I was going to "become" a woman. Like it was something that I had to earn, some magical transformation that would happen. And as a result I spent a lot of transition worrying that I somehow wasn't "female enough," that I somehow didn't deserve to be gendered female or treated like a woman or any of those things, because it was this thing that I felt like I hadn't earned yet.

2.5 years of hormones and 14 months of full-time later, and I've realized that being female wasn't something that I had to become, or had to earn, I already was one. What I used to interpret as my brain telling me that I wanted to be female, or wished I was female, that was really my brain telling me that I was female already, and I needed my body and social role to match that identity. I just lacked the self-actualization to say that I was a girl, because of society's views on oppositional sexism where male and female are complete opposites, and you can't be one unless this and this and this, and therefore that transition actually is a transition where you switch from being male to being female, where you earned your femininity because of this and this and this. I shed this view and realized that I never was male in the first place, "male" was just a label that was slapped on me by other people.

Basically, I went into transition believing everything that society says about what it means to "transition" from male to female. Now I'm realizing that the entire concept of gender as society knows it, as a binary of opposites, as one side over here and another side over here and never the twain shall meet, if you want to be male or female you have to act this way, and have these interests, and have these childhood experiences, and these life aspirations, is complete bull. Those that I deemed as ideally feminine, who I felt like had "earned" their femininity in my eyes, had done NOTHING different than me, it's just that they were lucky genetically. When you really get into it, gender is just an arbitrary set of societal expectations based on one's appearance, taking a few minute perceived differences and making overblown assumptions about your personality, interests, life goals, everything, just based on that appearance. ANYONE can be either completely male or female by society's definition simply by existing in a certain body, regardless of their actual personality or interests or identity or history. That was when I realized that there was nothing to earn. I simply was.

My life experience confirms this. Pre-transition, I had NO support from anyone. Even my own mother, who wanted desperately to at least give me lip service in support, says that she had trouble seeing me as a woman, and wasn't sure that I knew what I was doing. Magically, when my body finally started matching, and I started being gendered female by strangers a majority of the time, despite me still being the exact same person inside and doing the exact same things, all of a sudden people magically switched their perspective from "you'll never be a woman" to "what? How can you possibly think you're not a woman?"

Like I said, gender is freaking arbitrary.
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Maybebaby56

Quote from: KimSails on Today at 12:09:26 pm
I read a lot of people's stories here on Susan's, where many people say that if they had any real choice in the matter they would NOT have transitioned.  For them it was a choice between transitioning and death/depression/addiction/etc.  I felt that I was a reasonably happy person in my life.  No addictions, no depression, no suicidal thoughts.  But I thought about being female many times a day, everyday.

Quote from KatieJ
And other than knowing at a young age I wanted to be a girl, I don't really fit the standard trans narrative either. I spent years thinking I couldn't possibly be authentically transgender because of it.

Could I live the rest of my life as a guy? Probably. Do I want to? Not even a little bit.  And IMHO that's reason enough to transition. Forget about the transition or death nonsense. And other than knowing at a young age I wanted to be a girl, I don't really fit the standard trans narrative either. I spent years thinking I couldn't possibly be authentically transgender because of it.
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These two posts sum things up for me perfectly.  I have thought about being a girl, wanting to be a girl, every single day of my life since I was a child.  Do I hate being a guy?  No, but I have no desire to be one.

I start HRT next week.  How that works out will decide if I fully transition fully or  not.  If it doesn't, I will be heartbroken, but I will know it is simply not a path available to me. My life will go on.
"How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives" - Annie Dillard
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Tessa James

Quote from: stephaniec on June 23, 2015, 04:16:00 PM
thanks, they said that it just  pops out plus they're recording it with a mini cam , so maybe I'll be famous.

And Now In Prime Time;  "Stephanie's Laparoscopic Cholecystectomy" Starring in alphabetical order: Her Gallbladder and Stephanie!  The crowds are going to love it, especially the 3-D version. ;D ;D ;D
Open, out and evolving queer trans person forever with HRT support since March 13, 2013
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Maybebaby56

Quote from: Carrie Liz on June 23, 2015, 06:04:37 PM
Absolutely.

Pre-hormones and pre-transition, I somehow had this view that I was going to "become" a woman. Like it was something that I had to earn, some magical transformation that would happen. And as a result I spent a lot of transition worrying that I somehow wasn't "female enough," that I somehow didn't deserve to be gendered female or treated like a woman or any of those things, because it was this thing that I felt like I hadn't earned yet.

2.5 years of hormones and 14 months of full-time later, and I've realized that being female wasn't something that I had to become, or had to earn, I already was one. What I used to interpret as my brain telling me that I wanted to be female, or wished I was female, that was really my brain telling me that I was female already, and I needed my body and social role to match that identity. I just lacked the self-actualization to say that I was a girl, because of society's views on oppositional sexism where male and female are complete opposites, and you can't be one unless this and this and this, and therefore that transition actually is a transition where you switch from being male to being female, where you earned your femininity because of this and this and this. I shed this view and realized that I never was male in the first place, "male" was just a label that was slapped on me by other people.

Basically, I went into transition believing everything that society says about what it means to "transition" from male to female. Now I'm realizing that the entire concept of gender as society knows it, as a binary of opposites, as one side over here and another side over here and never the twain shall meet, if you want to be male or female you have to act this way, and have these interests, and have these childhood experiences, and these life aspirations, is complete bull. Those that I deemed as ideally feminine, who I felt like had "earned" their femininity in my eyes, had done NOTHING different than me, it's just that they were lucky genetically. When you really get into it, gender is just an arbitrary set of societal expectations based on one's appearance, taking a few minute perceived differences and making overblown assumptions about your personality, interests, life goals, everything, just based on that appearance. ANYONE can be either completely male or female by society's definition simply by existing in a certain body, regardless of their actual personality or interests or identity or history. That was when I realized that there was nothing to earn. I simply was.

What wonderful wisdom.  I love this post.  I can only hope to experience your perception of life. It's very inspiring.
"How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives" - Annie Dillard
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Tessa James

Quote from: Maybebaby56 on June 23, 2015, 06:15:48 PM
What wonderful wisdom.  I love this post.  I can only hope to experience your perception of life. It's very inspiring.

I agree +1.  Carrie Liz has been a wonderful part of this Place since I arrived 2 years ago.  It has been fascinating to vicariously share her evolution and personal growth.
Open, out and evolving queer trans person forever with HRT support since March 13, 2013
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luna nyan

No in my case.

I was aware of the fact that I was gender dysphoric from a young age.  It just wasn't bad enough to push me to transition.  I made my peace with myself in my 20s, went through therapy, did all the leg work as far as knowing the logistics for transition were concerned - even got the HRT letter.

Then I chose not to go ahead, for a large number of reasons, but did a few things to keep myself slightly on the androgenous side (electrolysis, removing body hair etc).

I started HRT 3 years ago to prevent T related age changes.  Hormonally I'm female, emotionally female as well, but present androgynous male (even though my body has feminised somewhat).  The only thing HRT has done is make me more aware how much I've always leant towards female.

Roles in society are more fluid and less rigid than we think.  Often it's our own perceptions that restrict ourselves.

At the end I am who I am, and accept myself, flaws and all.
Drifting down the river of life...
My 4+ years non-transitioning HRT experience
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