Jgirl,

What a great surprise to see you around here again, I myself wasn't very active around the forums for quite a while, as I had a lot of things to catch up with after healing from my surgery last year.

There's no doubt in my mind that you were right from the beginning to not feel like things had been done to Dr. Cardenas' usual standard, your brow bossing on the one side is still visible and not just a little, maybe it seems more obvious in these pics than what I remember because of the amount of settling that has taken place in a year now, somehow the other side does look nice and flat. Yes the jaw could do with some tapering down, and in my opinion, there's no reason why these things wouldn't have been able to be achieved the first time around, so I would be expecting to only pay anaesthesia fees and not the surgeons.

Your chin, trachea shave, and nose, seem to have gone great, in your place, I would weight out the risks and benefits of getting my nose re-done, the reason is I had a bad nosejob done with my BA in 2013, I have had 2 revisions after that (3 ops total, last one with my ffs). A lot improved from the bad job I had done the first time but there are things they were never able to fix caused by the first bad job I had (the original surgeon left a needle in my nose and had to go back in to get it which completely messed it up) but I am happy enough now! What I'm trying to say is,!noses are very difficult to get right and fixed once something goes wrong. If you are going in for rhinoplasty, make sure you really want it. If it's only for small improvements , try to think it thoroughly and really measure out wether it's necessary or you could do without it, but of course that decision is ultimately for you to make!

Your cheeks do seem like maybe they could do with something, I would maybe consider some fat transfer to them too, I can't say I know enough about cheek implants, maybe the fact that I have two big breasts already scares me away from having implants anywhere else in my body, I don't know! , but I'm wondering wether your jaw is making that need for fullness more noticeable as it is right now? If that makes sense..

I myself will likely be having to go under for some small improvements, so you're not alone at it!

Regardless, you are looking beautiful as always and I am just happy to get to say hi to you once more!

Hi there Cali! It's nice to hear from you! You're looking AMAZING by the way, Dr. Bart did a beautiful job on you! Appreciate the constructive feedback. I will likely be going to DiMaggio or Rossi at a future date. I would really like to go to Buenos Aires first and consult with them both in person and compare notes. On an additional note... I noticed that Dr. C seems to do really well with ethnic girls. Perhaps it's because generally they start out relatively feminine. If one needs aggressive work done, he is not the one. I'm really tempted to go back to him to fix things because I already paid the money... but that's what got me into this pickle in the first place, I should have waited but he was the right price at the right time and I went for it....  I don't feel worse off than I did before, but the idea of having to go through this again is rather daunting... I just want to feel that I'm done with it and I just don't feel that way. It's such a disappointing thing! Anyhow, thanks again for the feedback and I'm glad to see you're still here lovely girl! XX

I wrote to Dr. Cardenas and Tyler over a week ago about my concerns and sent photos. I have yet to hear back...

That's terrible; I was considering surgery with Dr. Cardenas, but one of the things that seriously bothered me was that Tyler took too long to reply to my email. 

Still nothing.... I'll let everyone know if I ever hear back...

Hi JGIRL, please check your spam.  Dr. Cardenas sent you an e-mail at 8:14 AM Central Time on 7/27/2015.  If you can't find it, I can forward it to you. 

Kittenpower - I'm sorry that we didn't respond to your e-mails as fast as we should have.  If there is a chance that we can help you, please consider reaching out to us again. 

Quote from: jgirl76 on August 03, 2015, 12:14:37 AM
Still nothing.... I'll let everyone know if I ever hear back...

If you are using a mail program you might log in to the web interface of your mail provider and check folders...
you also might add known addresses to a whitelist so mail is delivered...

hugs

I did finally hear back from Dr. Cardenas and we are discussing a possible revision. Not sure yet what the costs for revision will be etc.   

I'm curious to know if their going to make you full price. Because, I need a revision also. he did my first surgery which didn't turn out good. I'm more clockable now then ever before. I've never wore my hair back in a ponytail not once in public, I have to much brow bossing still. Now I have to go back and do a revision (type 3) with full price and if he gives you any discount, Thats not very fair. I'm also tired of girls coming on here claiming he does better with Ethnic girls, I'm ethnic and I highly disagree with that comment. Every surgeon has its best and good ones and I've actually seen better white girls when I was there  that had work done same time as me, I didn't even know two of the woman were even trans woman, thats how good he did and one was 58.

I am thinking about going to Cardenas for fat transfer. Do you have any experience with him on this?

I would be leery of going back for a revision. Some doctors aren't happy about doing them even though they might feel obligated to do them.

Posessed,
I did have fat transfer to my lips by Cardenas and it lasted for a while but I would say that most of it is gone now. I think a filler like Restlyn (sp?) can be done for cheaper in the US. I found the fat transfer to be expensive, which I assume is because they have to harvest the fat etc. With filler, it's already ready to inject.

Tinkerbell,
I have not yet heard back about what the costs will be... I would plan to keep any agreement reached doctor/patient confidential as every case is individual. I'm sorry to hear in your case that you don't feel you received a good outcome, unfortunately I also know the feeling...  Regardless of price,  there are other factors I have to take into consideration as well, so the price would be one factor.

Melissa,
I have some similar fears/feelings about this...  I do think Dr. Cardenas is sincere about wanting to help (which I appreciate) although there is never a 2nd chance to make a 1st impression. My trust in him is understandably somewhat challenged as the correct procedures weren't done from the beginning. Beyond pricing I will have the mental and emotional task of deciding if I can bring myself to go back to Guadalajara or if I'm better off with another surgeon... I'm still doing a lot of soul searching at the moment and I appreciate your perspective.

Thank you very much for your response. I was thinking about getting fat transfer to the hips and butt. Do you have any idea what is he like for that. Also I am kind of afraid to travel to Guadalajara. Did you find it safe?

Quote from: jgirl76 on August 10, 2015, 02:19:52 AM
Posessed,
I did have fat transfer to my lips by Cardenas and it lasted for a while but I would say that most of it is gone now. I think a filler like Restlyn (sp?) can be done for cheaper in the US.

I had Juvederm injected into my upper lip a few years ago, and it lasted for over a year; IIRC, It was $300.

I have not had body work done by Dr. C, but have had friends who have and they were happy. You'll be safe in Guadalajara. It's a little dirty in places, but I never felt unsafe. Downtown and the nearby neighborhoods were actually really nice. It is MEXICO, MEXICO though... not a resort.

Thank you very much for your info. How aggressive is he with liposuctions and how much of the transferred fat stays in place after fat transfer?

It's been some time since I should have heard back about revision costs.... To date I've not been provided any figures... I have heard nothing back. At this time I have resolved that I lost my hard earned 16k and didn't receive an acceptable FFS result. I will need  forehead and jaw revision but it won't be in Mexico. I'm feeling somewhat disappointed by my decision to go there now, but it is what it is... I'm left holding the bag now, they got my money...  For those who have the luxury of waiting a little longer, your money will go further with another surgeon, especially if you're looking for a good forehead result. Do not let anyone lie and tell you that type I is sufficient unless you barely have any brow bossing at all. If you have even moderate bossing, you'll need type III from a surgeon who is truly experienced with the procedure. DO NOT SELL YOURSELF SHORT, it's not worth it! This is a surgery you only want to go through ONE TIME, it is BRUTAL. Do not be convinced to part with your hard earned money for insufficient procedures. That's it ladies!

I'm highly appreciative of your posts Jgirl, decided not to go with Cardenas for any facial work except maybe my nose (just a little improvement).

I still, however, consider him for hip and buttock implants... Haven't met anyone who had his hip work done... I may have to be the pioneer in that. Although I also think of liposuction, hmm...

There's also another guy in Chile that does hips, I guess, unless I do it, I won't know

Quote from: crowcrow223 on August 18, 2015, 04:57:07 AM
I'm highly appreciative of your posts Jgirl, decided not to go with Cardenas for any facial work except maybe my nose (just a little improvement).

I still, however, consider him for hip and buttock implants... Haven't met anyone who had his hip work done... I may have to be the pioneer in that. Although I also think of liposuction, hmm...

You could have a look here:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,180220.msg1593390.html#msg1593390
and here:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,180220.msg1608335.html#msg1608335


hugs

Quote from: jgirl76 on May 26, 2015, 04:46:26 AM
I'm sure because you are having type III you will be better off than I was. Do not get me wrong, I don't think Dr. Cardenas is not a good surgeon, HE IS, when he does the right procedures. Roni did get EXCELLENT results from him, and my results weren't "terrible" they just weren't optimal. For me because I only have one more shot at this, my confidence is blown because he didn't do the right thing the 1st time, however, that isn't to say he won't do the right thing by you. I have trust you'll be in good hands

We were saddened to learn that JGIRL's opinion has now changed from what was written above on 5/26/2015 to what she just recently posted.  In the above post, she seems to recommend Type III by Dr. Cardenas.  In contrast, she now encourages you to consider a more experienced surgeon.  Because these negative comments will live forever online, we feel that we must point out this discrepancy and encourage further research before jumping to any conclusions.  We know that we cannot satisfy 100% of the people, 100% of the time, but our goal is to get as close to that figure as possible.