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How do I get her to stop?

Started by Yakayla, August 16, 2015, 06:20:02 PM

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Yakayla

I was having a conversation with my wife this morning about random stuff. And we started talking about handwriting. I told her that I hated my handwriting and could make it look pretty if I write extremely slow(seriously takes me like 5 seconds a letter) and pushing down really hard. And she said, "but you"re a man, you don't need to have pretty handwriting".

She says this to me like once a month. Usually my hair. I'll have like a giant wing in the back of my hair, and we have to rush, and she knows about it, but doesn't even let me know. Which is really upsetting.

How do I make her stop doing this, without being really confrontational and shouting, "but I'm not a man" or something like that. I've tried telling her that it's important to me. But she's just not getting the message.
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Dena

From your post, it appears you wife doesn't know about you so the only other solution is to say many of the great artist, chefs, writers and even dress designers are men so nice hand writing is not restricted to women.
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Quote from: Yakayla on August 16, 2015, 06:20:02 PM
I was having a conversation with my wife this morning about random stuff. And we started talking about handwriting. I told her that I hated my handwriting and could make it look pretty if I write extremely slow(seriously takes me like 5 seconds a letter) and pushing down really hard. And she said, "but you"re a man, you don't need to have pretty handwriting".

She says this to me like once a month. Usually my hair. I'll have like a giant wing in the back of my hair, and we have to rush, and she knows about it, but doesn't even let me know. Which is really upsetting.

How do I make her stop doing this, without being really confrontational and shouting, "but I'm not a man" or something like that. I've tried telling her that it's important to me. But she's just not getting the message.

If she knows you're TG, like because you told her, that sounds like her denial of the situation (your situation and the changing relationship dynamic as a result). Plus, unless she's bi, or has bi tendencies, she most likely doesn't want her husband to become her wife.

Either way, she's most likely attracted to your masculine qualities as a straight woman and engaging in feminine behavior is basically undesirable. Does she have IRL gf's she gets a long with? How does she treat them?

Also, it sounds like you convey negativity when you talk about yourself. This could also be part of it as well. Instead of saying "I hate my handwriting." You could be saying "Your handwriting is awesome. Show me how you write so nicely." This way you're complimenting her and being positive instead of a negative nancy annoyance.


If it takes you 5 seconds per character, then FRIGGING RELAX! No seriously, your hand, relax it. And you relax too in the head! Female writing is more circular, and it's just about making everything out of basically a circle or loops. Men are all thrusting and angular with harsh movements. So hold the pen/pencil lightly and just go 'laaa dee daaa' in your head as you draw circles for a bit and then write some words with similar circular shaping. Just keep practicing til it feels comfortable to write in a 'loopy lose' kinda way. The more you do it, the better it'll become.

Pushing the pen harder isn't going to yield better/faster results. The trick is in the head to hand connection. Being relaxed and on the same page. Writing is text artistry. It's like learning to draw/paint. Everyone starts out scribbling and doodling.

Also, try holding the pen/pencil differently. Put it between different fingers or such, preferably a looser grip so you can't mash your fingers into it.

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Ms Grace

If she knows you're trans then she either doesn't understand or doesn't want to understand - either way it would be better to have a calm discussion about it and not yell at her.

If she doesn't know you're trans then she doesn't know better or different. In this case a heart to heart is needed... randomly shouting at her will not likely help you much.
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Yakayla

Yes "hate" is a strong word, I really said I didn't like it. I guess I let my annoyance turn it a bit more negative. But I definitely get your point. I have a very positive outlook on life, but when it comes to myself I can be pretty critical. I actually was gonna write like a paragraph of complaining. But I stopped myself. I get defensive easily and that doesn't help me at all. I'll try experimenting with the different hand grips.

I've had a long talk with my wife about how I feel, and that I feel like I should have been born woman. And she is bi. Actually she dated more girls than guys. This has got me thinking though. Like her family, was really happy when they found out I was moving here to be with her, and that I was a "boy". Maybe she feels like if I show too much femininity, they'll be be like, oh, nope she's still with a girl.

Thank yous. I got things sorted out enough to be able to have another long conversation with her about it. <3333
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