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Quote from: Cindy on May 03, 2015, 03:30:19 AM
If there is any bickering from associates, staff members, clients of the various FFS units then I will ban you.

I will not tolerate the casual and insinuating insults to the various FFS centers. I will not tolerate bashing of surgeons or centers.

You have been warned for a final time.

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I have never been Dr Cardenas patient. I had totally different doctors operating on my face. So I am very objective. I believe that this particular patient has unsatisfactory brow results and needs revision. None of us knows why did she go for type 1 forehead reconstruction. Obviously that was wrong indication for the results she wanted. That doesn't make Cardenas a bad choice. Indeed I have seen so many stunning results of this doctor and the most important thing I have never seen one that looks done and plastic. Majority of his patients not that only pass but make beautiful women. So saying that Cardenas was a bad choice for the results she wanted is acceptable. But I believe that Cardenas is a great choice for many patients to come.

If I remember correctly, Jgirl76 and I had our surgeries a few weeks apart, and it seems as though we've had two vastly different outcomes. I only had a Type 1 as well, but it seems that was all I needed on my forehead, as it looks very feminine. My face took a LOOOOOONG time to settle, but now I'm very happy with it. I was impressed enough that I went back to Dr. C for a BA earlier this year, which turned out fantastic. He was a good choice for me, I guess. In any case, her forehead and mine don't look similar, and I agree that if you have your heart set on a Type 3, then that's what you should get.

Thread locked. This thread has run it's course. It has become a haven for bashing this surgeon and staff. This type of behavior is against TOS 10 and will not be tolerated. Thanks
Mariah