Mannerisms and behaviors:  None

I wish it could have been easier to achieve a female voice without spending so much money in speech therapy but oh well.  At least I was able to..

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Quote from: Ashley Michelle on December 11, 2007, 06:32:26 PM
i crack my knuckles.



oh, and i threaten to stab obnoxious drunken people in the eye with my salad fork.

but i only did that once.

I crack my knuckles too and its a tough habit to break.  Started when I was 12 yrs old, and everyone hates it when I do it especially when the room is quiet!   

Out of curriosity,
This may seem like a stupid question,
But why would anyone want to shed somthing that is part of you?
I mean I understand perfectly if it is a tendancy or habit that is unhelpful,
But just because it is masculine or feminine?
We all have both spectrums in us.
Regardless of whether we are born Trans. or not.
Non transgendered women by birth have a masculine side just like all men have some feminine side.
no one is 100% one way or the other. No one I've met anyway.
Why would I want to get rid of part of myself that is not hurting anything?
I tend to have more femininity than masculinity, and Have a very real female gender, but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy skiing off cliffs!
Or bombing hill on a longboard! I like them just as much as I do dancing, singing, cooking and yoga, and girls gymnastics. Just for different reasons. I'm sure other people are different, but perhaps someone would be willing to explain why they would want to "get rid" of part of their natural personality?

Seems weird to me.
But then again, a lot of the things people do seem weird to me.
LOL
-Sarah

Sarah, its not part of you
if you collected these mannerism
just to adapt to the male
environment around you.

After awhile it becomes an
automatism, but is that
part of you? Is everything
you learned and integrated a part
of you?

If you walk in a very male way,
and there is such a thing, go
on biomechanics sites.

Humans adapt to their
environment and
depending on the environment
you want to fit in, it
may be better to shed
male manerism that helped you
fit the other environment
but don't help in the new setting.

Kiera,
listen,
you and I don't agree on a lot of things.

I was born trans.
I don't know about you.

I'm not talking about learned behavious.

Little, little, kids start displaying unlearned behaviours usually around the age of 5-6.
I don't act anyting like my parrents, and they know it. they have said so.
Kids are thier own people.

I am refering to behavious that "society" deems as masculine or feminine.

If all behaviour was learned, I wouldn't be Trans.
I certainly didn't learn that from anybody.

Peace
-Sarah.

P.S.
I respect your right to disagree with me, but I am not interested in getting into another arguement.
I'll spell this out really plainly.
Your steadfast belief in Psychology, your interpretations/beliefs of science, medicine, and the world; I tend to disagree with.
Not because I think they are bad, but because I have examined those beliefs on my own time, and disagree with their/ your conclusions based on my own experience and the experience of others I trust.
I'm not trying to be rude, but you come across to me as someone like a Christian fundie, or an Athiest Fundie, so convinced of their own rightiousness that they consider views/opinions to the contrary or that challenge their own as "ludicrous, blasphemous, or ridicules. That others views are not worth looking at at any depth. That People who believe otherwise are idiots.
That I disagree, does not mean that I am ignorant of the things you talk about or that I do not have all the information.
However, as I have said, based on my own experience, the experience of those I trust, and certain things thatI have found to be proven true as Laws of the Universe, I have to disagree with many of the conclusions that these sorts of views hold.

I have very little interest in talking to someone who is unwilling to let their views be challenged without becoming defensive or able to keep an open mind.
Perhaps I am mistaken but you do come across that way to me.

Respectfully yours,
-Sarah

You should know Sarah,.
There's only one other in 12 months I've disagreed as much as I did with you
in a week, and it took 9 months before it got to that point.
That's saying something... I'm never responding to you again because
there's no point to it, ever.  So there, that's my last communication with you.

Edit:
By the way Kiera,
It's not that I don't like you,
I just think it's probably better that we focus on areas where we might have things in common like Fashion, Music tastes, Makup, etc.
Things we can agree on possibly.
You know?
It's no fun to focus on differences all the time.
Differences are there, but so is commonality.
Peace.
-Sarah