To those who think I am a cross dresser

http://kallmanns-syndrome.blogspot.com/2007/12/to-those-who-think-i-am-cross-dresser.html
12/9/2007

"To those who think I am a cross dresser or anything else their warped mentally deranged min can think of. I AM NOT OR WILL EVER BE A CROSS DRESSER AND I AM FLATLY SAYING THAT I AM NOT OR WILL EVER BE A CROSS DRESSER. I am intersex and I have Kallmann's syndrome."

Why the need to put down transgenders (which she mixes with TS) in the article to make a point. The cause for being transgender (in which she seems to put TS) is not known at all so how can any point
even be made on that not being an intersex condition, we just don't
know for sure!

I kind of liked this quote:

"I maybe the most vocal person who ever put my words online. If i have a POV on something, then it's here where i speak my mind in a big way. I'm the most provocative person you'll ever meet."

Doubtful they ever read another web page on the web other than their own.  Not like FreeRepublic, Democratic Underground, or any number of other sites.  At the least they could learn that if your are publishing it as a web site, make it a capital "I".  That and it "May Be" not "Maybe."  Yeesh.  And the idea of being 'the most vocal person who ever put...words online" is, of course, an oxymoron.  And I'm willing to bet that when it comes to being 'provocative' they ain't even making my top 200, much less my number one.

I just see an individual with poor writing skills, who is ignorant about transsexualism. And loud about it. The empty cans make the most noise.

Quote from: Katia on December 10, 2007, 05:28:56 PM
"I AM NOT OR WILL EVER BE A CROSS DRESSER AND I AM FLATLY SAYING THAT I AM NOT OR WILL EVER BE A CROSS DRESSER."

Sounds cross to me.  Definitely cross.  And I assume gets dressed.  Maybe not a cross-dresser, but definitely a cross dresser.

Oh read the rest of the site, very strange stuff.

I read it twice. The writing is a bit fragmented. I got the message, and their feelings. I seen no "TS" bashing. Read with compassion.

I'm willing to bet this person has suffered at the hands of doctors, heartless people,
etc. The compairson was that "intersex" and "TS" are two different things. It seems that this person has run into too many people that think they are the same. Due to being "IS" they may have been labeled a "CD" and teased and hounded to no end.
Also were told to "transistion" to total male or female, and stated that as a "IS" they have rights, being it is a physical birth problem.
If they were to transistion,that would make this person transsexual and WE know about the rights of TS persons.

                                                   Jennifer

SpeLing mistakes are the computers fault !

But again, who's to say that TS is not an IS condition with a very specific symptom.
There are a lot of IS with very little symptoms. Also, if an IS as a female phenotype, say because of androgen insensitivity and a strong sense of feeling female; how does that work.

IS is not ONE unique condition, there's dozens and dozens of variations and combinations.
Most live happily in the gender of their phenotype.
Its only when phenotype and the feeling of what gender one is conflict that there is an issue.

So, there is a problem between body and internal feeling and then something must be done
about it, sure sounds like a TS feeling to me... In those cases.

Its when the gender switch doesn't match the external presentation that IS like TS have problems. That's probably in the brain, so its probably an IS issue.

Not sure why some IS don't want to be associated with TS. Prejudice maybe. They are biological and for us its a lifestyle. Well, thats what I hear from this diatribe.

Quote from: Keira on December 11, 2007, 09:25:43 PM

But again, who's to say that TS is not an IS condition with a very specific symptom.
There are a lot of IS with very little symptoms. Also, if an IS as a female phenotype, say because of androgen insensitivity and a strong sense of feeling female; how does that work.

IS is not ONE unique condition, there's dozens and dozens of variations and combinations.
Most live happily in the gender of their phenotype.
Its only when phenotype and the feeling of what gender one is conflict that there is an issue.

So, there is a problem between body and internal feeling and then something must be done
about it, sure sounds like a TS feeling to me... In those cases.

Its when the gender switch doesn't match the external presentation that IS like TS have problems. That's probably in the brain, so its probably an IS issue.

Not sure why some IS don't want to be associated with TS. Prejudice maybe. They are biological and for us its a lifestyle. Well, thats what I hear from this diatribe.

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I am transsexual and by no means am I intersexed.  Being intersexed is a condition that is easily seen in someone's jeans and their genes as well.

I have a friend who is now far away from me and she was intersexed, born with manifestations of both genitals, or maybe with ambiguous genitals. 

Her father chose very early in her life that she would be a boy so she had many surgeries to her genitals, strong doses of testosterone, and suffered for many years, until she was able to leave home and her father's direct influence.

There was no mistaking her for a young woman.  Her face and figure were perfect, and her hair was something that I wish I had, yet her father refused to acknowledge that she was a she.

Eventually she did some homework and found that her birth certificate did not show a gender.  She had the genetic testing done and she was xxy.  When she had her GRS, the surgeon, Dr. B., found an ovary and part of a uterus, yet this person was forced to be "one of the boys."

Yes, she was cross at times when she dressed but she was not a cross-dresser.

I believe what Katia has written, however angry she might have been.  Why?  Because I feel hurt and frustration in her words.

Thank you for hearing me out.

Wing Walker
Calling It As I See It.

Being IS not always easy to see it the jeans, or whatever.

If it was that easy, people and parents wouldn't be that
confused about it. If you've got Androgen insensitivies
you look like a girl even though your genetically a man.
If that person's a FTM, they'd be screwed because
they'd be NO real solutions for them except a mastectomy,
since T could not help!! I've never heard of a AIS TS, which is intriguing because why would there not be?

Katia relayed the news, I don't think its her writing.

What I'm saying is I've heard many times how IS don't want to be put in the same boat as TS when in fact there may be a very close relationship. Its the whole, we choose to be TS or we are diseases or crazy thing, that gets us put in a corner.

As I said, many IS, if the doctor hasn't mutilated them at birth
or parents haven't forced them to live according to whatever
sex they felt they were (which wasn't the case before and led
to lots of grief), live their lives according to whatever phenotype (physically expressed sexual characteristics) they choose to
adopt. What directs this gender adoption is intriguing because often the gonads themselves and genetics are so ambiguous that it could go either way. What if it was something in the brain that directed gender... Just like for us TS (except in our case, that was the only symptom).

Research in this area is still very spotty and one day they may know
where the sense of gender comes from.

Personally I think the boundry of IS not wanting to be grouped with TS is acceptance, health care, issues we face being clearly biological  the oppsite of what we feel we are.

I guess what Im guessing is that it is easier for a IS to say well I am this way both physically and mentally, not TS just mentally.

Its like a IS get a 1+ on TS, as far as acceptance, ect.

maybe I am wrong, but If I found out I had ovaries, I would shove that in my parents face when my parents told be to not be a freak in a skirt

Also Kiera I have seen you post elsewhere as well that there are many, many gender variations and i completely agree, I think the current classifications are just general and there are so many that they tend to lump them to understand TG people.

I mean personally who is to say that a CD isnt a mild form of GID, why is GID treated as a only extreme thing, not that I disagree as I feel rather extreme about my own, but then why are there TS who claim to be non-op not pre-op, if GID was so extreme.

I mean GID is solved to different lengths depending on diff people

Quote from: Wing Walker on December 11, 2007, 11:56:56 PM

I believe what Katia has written, however angry she might have been.  Why?  Because I feel hurt and frustration in her words.

Wing Walker
Katia did not write  the original post.  only quoted the source page.

Please note the Quote marks and the font change in her post.

The news posts may or may not reflect the opinion of the staff or member who posted the article.
we  only present to  the membership  a digest of  transgender news (both positive and negative) so we may be better informed community.

Katia is a dedicated news staff member, who keeps not just you and I informed of the multitude of T-news but keeps the entire community informed and up to date. The news board is one of the most popular spots at susans.  especially with the guest browsers.

We need to recognize and thank Katia for the many hours she spends bringing us the news.

Katia Thank you for your service.

Best Wishes
Kate Alice

ps  have i got a scoop

Quote from: Kate Alice on December 12, 2007, 04:43:57 AM

Quote from: Wing Walker on December 11, 2007, 11:56:56 PM

I believe what Katia has written, however angry she might have been.  Why?  Because I feel hurt and frustration in her words.

Wing Walker
Katia did not write  the original post.  only quoted the source page.

Please note the Quote marks and the font change in her post.

The news posts may or may not reflect the opinion of the staff or member who posted the article.
we  only present to  the membership  a digest of  transgender news (both positive and negative) so we may be better informed community.

Katia is a dedicated news staff member, who keeps not just you and I informed of the multitude of T-news but keeps the entire community informed and up to date. The news board is one of the most popular spots at susans.  especially with the guest browsers.

We need to recognize and thank Katia for the many hours she spends bringing us the news.

Katia Thank you for your service.

Best Wishes
Kate Alice

ps  have i got a scoop

Thank you for the clarification.  Perhaps it's the time of night or my advancing age, but is there any particular reason for why that bit of the Kallman's Syndrome blog was presented here, in the news?  I looked at the blog and I could not associate what I read there with being here.

I have had scoops in my time, too.  I hope that yours is more newsworthy than mine were.  BTW, is Katia's avatar really her or is it a generated image?  Again, I might be a tad slower than I thought.

Many thanks, Kate Alice.

Wing Walker

QuoteI know who the naysayers out their and I know the ones who doubt or think I am not intersex. I also doubt that their intersex as well because, they are those who so call themselves intersex when they really transgender in disguise. You can't not be intersex and transition at the same time because to me, that means you are more of a transgender than a intersex person and when you do transition, you can not call yourself intersex anymore and you lose the intersex label and protection at the same time.

Lulz.... Im intersex, and ive transitioned... I maintain intersex, because i AM, transitioning doesnt change that... the fact im more mentally female, i ATRIBUTE to the intersex condition i was born with...
If that person feels the way they do, then there in some serious denial issues about allsorts!
R