I have an hourglass figure, large bottom, and a round/oval, feminine face. My breasts usually disappear under a bigger t-shirt or something, even without binding. With a sports bra, it's even better. I'm not really sure what to do about the bottom, though. It's really, really round. And what to do about my hair. For now I have shoulder length hair, and I like it long. I supose short hair would make my face look plumpy and even more feminine. Do you have any tips on how to look more androgynous?

edit: I'm not sure where to post it, but I guess non-binary section is ok?

I suggest straight leg jeans, maybe even bootcuts if you like 'em. Stay away from anything too tight, but don't go with too loose-fitting either, it will only make you look bigger. Well-fitting usually works best. And about the hair, I've had the same problems. When I had short hair my round face just looked rounder. You might wanna try a more "masculine" long hairstyle, it usually involves no layering (although if your hair is curly you need layers to avoid the triangle-shape) and no fringe. You might wanna try a haircut that frames your face though, like shorter in the front that gradually becomes longer (idk how to explain). And other than that, men's button-up shirts can work wonders for a curvy figure,  especially with patterns and stuff, it takes the focus away from your chest.

I'm in the same boat, and I've found that certain brands of jeans work better for me than others in straightening out my (admittedly very) hip-y figure. Do you have a Uniqlo near you? They're a Japanese brand, and I've found that their men's section is very accommodating.

Button ups and sweaters that fall just below the hip also work well for me. It makes me look a little young/boyish, but it does look much more masculine than my t shirts imo.


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In casual wear there's lots of unisex styles. Cargo shorts/pants, sweats, hoodies, tanks, sandals. I wear these and clearly present as cis-M. This despite shoulder hair, 6 pierced lobes & splashy ear bangles.

Clearly some sort of andro-gyne . . . mostly XY but out in the middle.

YES at this very moment wanting to do some OR/WA LEGAL bong hits, step out in the night, in the forbidden skirt/dress. Some days male, others more female.

Your mileage may vary -- ☆☆☆

Entirely OK to be cleary cis-F and dressed male. But you want to PASS as male. That's another feeling, like my wanting to pass female.

why we have this site.

Thank you for your replies and lots of useful advice

Quote from: Khatru on August 27, 2015, 03:52:23 AM
I suggest straight leg jeans, maybe even bootcuts if you like 'em. Stay away from anything too tight, but don't go with too loose-fitting either, it will only make you look bigger. Well-fitting usually works best.

Wow, thanks! I have actually tried both thight and loose trousers and didn't know what to do about it, because what happened is just what you have described. Thank you also for hairstyle recommendation.

Quote from: captains on August 27, 2015, 07:23:46 AM
Do you have a Uniqlo near you?

No, I haven't ever seen this brand. :/

Quote from: Allison Wunderland on August 29, 2015, 01:26:41 AM
Entirely OK to be cleary cis-F and dressed male. But you want to PASS as male. That's another feeling, like my wanting to pass female.

why we have this site.

I actually want to pass as neither male nor female, or in between, which is way more difficult than passing as male I have to strike the delicate balance, I guess.

I've got serious hips and butt too. I've found that straight leg pants, worn very low on the hips helps to de-emphasize them.

Worn low on the hips you say... Hm. I must try it.

Loose jacket, pull over, or even large T-shirt -- drapes over hips and bust. Men zipper/button fly opens to the right. Women's to left, BUT many women's pants have "men's fly."

Smaller pockets, no rear pockets in women's clothing. Generally lighter weight fabric. Men don't wear a lot of pastels. So, heavier men's shirts, pants. Darker, solids.

Men style boots, walking/hiking. Nylon jog pants, sweats.

Objective is not to "pass" as a cis-M, but rather to straddle the space between M & F.

You'll be female, but more middle, less hetero normative.

It sounds like you have a very obvious female form. Do you feel uncomfortable with that? In which case it may be about minimising those gender markers.

Otherwise there are a whole range of ways you can dress gender queer and it depends on how you view androgyny. Waif thin girly boys in manga, gender ->-bleeped-<-ing...

How about a very dapper look - waist coats, guy shirts, bowties:

Cis-F above has estrogen features in face. That's the major gender cue.  Men have androgen in face -- impossible to hide w/ hair, bangles, skirts. In all of it I'm presenting "guy in dress."

I can pass for "large, older matron, bohemian, beach casual." -- in the dark, if I stand far away . . . LMAO More up close, it's cis-M, long hair, earrings, cross gender casual wear.

Can't do skirts, and jeez gawd I got 'em!