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A forgotten point in transition - get a life?

Started by Cindy, October 18, 2015, 03:44:55 AM

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Cindy



Not sure how this post will go down but I'll try.

One thing that was emphasised to me by my psychiatrists during transition was to establish a life I wanted to live. To develop new interests and new friends, to socialise and interact with people from all walks of life.

As a very shy person I found that a great challenge - yes I am shy - or rather he was. It was a challenge I struggled with, particularly as I had few interests and had hidden in my scientific work as a cocoon against the world for a very long time.

I think part of my success as a scientist was my insularity. Which is not a needed attitude to being a scientist BTW!

I forced myself to take interest in other things, I chose opera, music, theatre, Art which led to a loving interest in expression through photography. But that is another topic.

I went to so many events alone, unescorted and very frightened, a woman by herself at such events I thought would be seen as odd. I was quite surprised that it wasn't. Many single men and women go to such events - indeed I think they are a pick up site for the newly separated/divorced! I was also pleasantly surprised by the gender diversity of people who went to such events.

I also realised that my psychiatrists were right - Cindy needed a life away from her ex-male persona. I found quite quickly that I was enjoying myself. Theatre, opera and music are a great opportunity to dress up! And, at least for me, great fun in learning the enjoyment of the classic Arts.

I rapidly realised when I started to do some counselling, that many transgender peoples' social interaction is through either social media, or in role play games. I do not think that is healthy; even if somewhat hypocritical from an Admin who spends a lot of her life running this Forum :laugh:

My message in this post is that I think that beyond our mental and physical transitioning, we also need to look at changing, and enjoying our social transitions.

Thoughts?
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Naeree

I agree that going online too much isn't healthy, online is a good place to start but we got to balance between online and physical activities. It's great that you find some activities that you enjoy. I wish I can get a chance to put on some nice gown and go to an event more often too. My activities on my social transition are joining the social work stuffs and going out for photography where mostly I got to wear a jean and t-shirt.  ;D

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suzifrommd

Quote from: Cindy on October 18, 2015, 03:44:55 AM
My message in this post is that I think that beyond our mental and physical transitioning, we also need to look at changing, and enjoying our social transitions.

Thoughts?

Yes. This. The best part of my transition was being socially a woman. I joined a new church, where everyone knew me only as Suzi.  I still go, pretty much every week, and I still get chills thinking about how they all see me as female.

I agree with Cindy. Step away from those computers, tablets, and smartphones and live life!
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Chrissy5946

While I don't feel I can really comment here...here goes with one thought.
I believe the special bond with that someone special is a key component in flourishing in life,transisition, etc.
I'm a true loner, have tons of periferal friends, but missing that special bond.
I desire it, need it. I hope I can stay strong until I meet that person.


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One of my biggest priorities with my transition was stop just nearly existing, but living. To not put up any walls and buriers and see where life takes. My first relationship has result from that living and exploring that has occurred. Hugs
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Rachel

I do a lot of volunteering. At work we have an active Pride group and we do a lot of events. This weekend we supported the Family Matters Pride event at work. I worked with 8+ children and had a lot of fun. Also the Physician and Chief for PA was there and (she is trans) gave a presentation on mindfulness.

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jingling_void

That was exactly how I felt when I came out of hospital. Previously, I felt so bad mental health wise that I didn't really start to 'live'. It was only when I got into my supported accommodation which i've been for a few weeks (not good with dates oop) that I really started to leave my old life behind and started living as Nathan.

not gonna lie it has been hard but it was worth it.
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kelly_aus

Funny thing, Cindy, is that I got told the same thing by my therapist. And he as right. Getting a life was essential.
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Kylie1

This is interesting.  I feel like I would lose my life and become more focused on the Internet etc.  Those are my big stoppers.  1. Not even remotely passing from size shape and physical injuries from living careless and hard.  2. Losing my business and community connection.  3. Possibly losing a true love.  4. My man hobbies like motorcycle racing and target shooting would expire, or I guess that would give others a target to race against or shoot against.  I'll have to ponder it.  I may be thinking about it all wrong.
Good topic Cindy..  Xx
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gennee

Yes, there is life after transition. I'm involved with with a group that writes plays and will do some theater production. I recently joined the social justice ministry at church. We will be tacking such issues as housing, education, racism, healthcare and other topics.

There more to us besides transition. Now is the opportunity to not only live life but to participate in some old and new activities.


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Serenation

Met all my closest friends and bf in mmo's, every one I know that gets married these days, meets in an mmo or such.

But yeah don't sit inside all day, go make some memories.
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JoanneB

My therapist has also pointed out my lack of a life. Lack of (as in zero) friends. Yes acquaintances, work mates, my support group members. But no friends these days. To anyone who knows me today, falling back on my "Shy introvert geek" excuse is a non-starter. I get the same "Deer in the headlights" look as when they first see me presenting differently then they are used to  :o Coming to accept myself as I am, as I feel who I am, also brought about a lot of other changes. Like actually talking to strangers, and being outgoing.

Still, some old habits are hard to break.

However Cindy, I might generalize a tad too much by saying "Get a Life" is perhaps a more generational advice then trans advice. I see an awful lot of zombies walking the streets totally detached from the world while trying to be totally connected to it. Outside of the HD display, there is no world, no life.

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cindianna_jones

I think that because of our "problems" growing up or whenever it happens, we naturally become reclusive. I was an engineer. I did the transition and then I had work. I never really got to know people for many years. Then I started my own business. I had to become sociable. Yes, I designed and built my products but I also had to sell them. This started me down a path of the happiest years of my life. I found many friends, some still very close, by participating in the hobby I was selling to (amateur astronomy.)

In the past few years, I've been writing books. I don't make much from them but I don't care. It was a lot of lonely work but it was exciting. I started a writers group here in my small town. I helped many frustrated people publish their stories in anthologies for a couple of years. They shall be lifetime friends and now they know all about me. I told them this week. They don't care about my past. In fact, I think we are closer.

I've spent most of my life living in my own shell. Wow, that's hard to swallow. But the past 15 years have been great. I'm now considering moving back to a real city and get away from my scenic hideaway in the middle of nowhere. I want to get back in a rock band or find a nice string quartet to play in. I want to find really good writers. I want some of their success to rub off on me.

Yeah, I agree. "Get a life." Pursue some fun hobbies, join a club or two, find passion in some wild pursuit. There is much more to life than getting surgery.

Chin up.
Cindi
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Eva Marie

Many of us sat in isolation for years, we didn't fit in well with people but we found an outlet for our social needs with social sites. For many that became a substitute for a life surrounded by other people.

Then we transition and we are reborn with new, exciting possibilities that were never there before - the barriers are gone.

For some people I think thats a very overwhelming prospect, learning to let go of the old inhibitions and the old, comfortable life.

Cindy and the others are right - life is for living - social media certainly has a place in my life but it's only a single piece of the mosaic of my life.
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Before surgery I lived in my shell. Shortly after surgery I meet my roommate who was an extrovert and spent over 30 years dragging me out of my shell. After she passed away, I started missing that part of my life and came to Susan's for information on voice surgery so I could move back into areas of society that I haven't been and be a bit more stealth about it. I have family and friends but I can see a future where that might not be the case so I am working toward an additional leg of support or at least the ability to form one when needed. All the time I spend on Susan's? It's far better than TV and I haven't watched it in over a month.
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BridgetYvonne

this is a good point. One of our friends, a girl brought this up a few weeks after I came out. Lisa, asked "So, when you are done turning into a girl whenever it is, then what?" Which is a question that has been bouncing around in my head. I have to answer it by Apr '16. I'll have work because the medical research lab is allowing me to 'intern'. I'll have a place to stay w/ my GF/mentor Vikki. Our true friends haven't dumped us because of me. So Now What?
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iKate

I do interact a lot on social media and also on forums like this one.

But I've made a good few friends who I meet up IRL.

I make friends with a lot of cis women IRL. I don't really disclose trans status up front but I suspect more than a few know. They treat me like a woman always...
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Emocia

This is a huge problem for me that I have to face because the transgender laws here are very ambiguous.

IDK if I can access a gender therapist here in Bahrain, and that worries me because it's just making the path ahead of me even harder.

I recently started university last month, and I've yet to make any close friends... I don't know what to do or how I'm going to 'get a social life'. I do try to attend this little video game clique I see at the Activities Hall sometimes.

But that still doesn't fix the issue of not being accepted here.
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Katiepie

Online I only really have this family, yes I consider all of everyone on this forum, this community as a family. You all are awesome and wonderful brothers and sisters. And a phone game I mainly use as a social construct, in which I have gained just as much support as I do here.
Currently work consumes me in which I lack much ability to want to do much outside of work. I am not taking my online class this semester as strong as I can due to my stressors at work. Next semester I wish to delve myself further in study, to take more classes and so I can reach for my goals.
In my former life I had loved nature, math and sciences, jazz music and events, and hiking. As a female the only interests that changed for me was getting into country music, I am such a country girl it hurts, and my love of wearing skirts.
The study in which I am getting into is forestry and wildlife conservation. Which is quite a 180 from my current IT setting in the army. I must say I am dreaming big, but as I want to say go big or go home.

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