I found this interesting video that talks about using Botox for Jaw reduction (Dr. Lam, a US doctor in Texas), and also he talks about surgery route and the differences between and which is safer and looks more natural (in this doctors opinion, Botox is safer than surgery).



And a bit from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaw_reduction

I never heard of this before, but it sounds interesting.

I thought I would pass on the information, anyway.


--Natalie

Its been around for about 5-8 years in asian community
were jaw angle reduction and jaw width reduction is a
flourishing business.

But its only in last 2-3 I've seen in TS circle.
Most of the FFS surgeons will do it.
Its safe and progressive and can atrophy specific part of the jaw muscle.
You can stop after the first injection and have only a small reduction
once the muscle paralysis stops or continue for all the treatments
and get a "permanent" result. If you decide to chew hard gum for
a few months, some will come back :-).
Its not that expensive since it doesn't take massive units to do so.
Brassard and Bensimmon (Both working from the same office) do it in Montreal.
Its preferred to removing the muscle itself (which used to be done and leads
to a long recovery time). With Bottox, within 2-3 weeks you get max reduction
for several months with one injection. Before it wears out you get other
doses and with this the muscle progressively becomes weaker and smaller.
But, for that to work, your jaw width must come from the muscle rather than
the mandible angle.  If you have a long chin and a prominent wide angle, this won't
reduce the jaw's visible bulk.

Thanks Natalie,  I have never heard of this procedure before and it seems a good one to consider doing. 

buttercup   

It looks promising. Although, I would prefer something more longterm like sawing off the part of the jaw that sticks out. Any little thing that helps. And since it's in Texas, it makes that all the more appealing. 

I have had this procedure done by a local plastic surgeon at
his suggestion. My jawline width as I have been on hormones
and have lost weight has become more of an issue, so this
idea was suggested to me. I felt it was cheaper and less
invasive than jawline surgery.

I had an initial amount of 25cc's placed into both cheek muscles.
I won't say it didn't sting, because it did. My jaw muscles from
the injections were sore for 4-5 days. I did notice over the course
of the first 2-3 weeks that I did have fatigued muscles, and chose
to eat foods that didn't require a lot of chewing. I did notice the
results after 3-4 weeks. I was pleased with what I saw. However,
realize that each side of your face my not react exactly the same
way. I went back at 7 weeks to have the sides equalized, and for
further reduction- since it hadn't completely met my expectations.
The doctor put in 15 cc's in the one side, and another 25cc's in the
one with less correction. The soreness and fatigue on the second
round was not as bad as the first go around.

I would say that I am pleased with my results. To some degree,
the effects have been too extreme in certain areas(hollowing out
my cheeks), while okay in the actual jawline area. This has made
a welcome improvement to my feminine appearance, and has caused
the number of female recognitions (maam's) to jump up a great deal.
(I am still living p/t and plan on full transitioning and FFS next year.)

Because this is a somewhat temporary solution, and given the fact
that I still have a bony issue, I still am strongly considering mandible
angle reduction as a part of my FFS next year.

Speaking of, many plastic surgeons do not do jawline reduction
surgery. Some will even say you look fine or great, just because they
don't do this type of procedure. Most FFS surgeons will do mandible
angle surgery, but your skilled neighborhood plastic surgeon will
direct you to an oral surgeon for this work. I have received quotes
from "teams" of doctors- a plastic surgeon for the soft tissue work
and an oral surgeon for the chin/jawline reduction. I am still considering
which way to go- a one stop FFS doc or the "team" approach.

So in summary, I think Botox for a 5-10 month reduction of maybe
20-33% maybe a good solution for many. However, realize that as
the muscle shrinks in size, it may reveal the wide, underlying bone.
In a nutshell, I would definitely consider doing it over.

Julie

If your jaw width is mostly due to the angle, I think
it may be better to not to the bottox thing, because the muscle
in this case actually rounds the face.

But, as was discussed before is jaw and chin height, not width that's
the main gender cue the brain latches on. So, its more important
to focus on that. Most models have wide jaws. Gisele Bundchen and
Kate Moss both have very strong facial features, but small chins.

I had botox put in my jaw for reduction and let me tell you the effects are too subtle to notice.
It only works on the muscle so if one has a wide jaw, jaw reduction via surgery is the only effective option.