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what are considered broad shoulders?

Started by archlord, November 15, 2015, 05:19:30 PM

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archlord

I cant really find the correct info on the web but what are broad shoulder looks like?

i am currently 15 inch shoulder width and 45 inch circumference . Is this broad?

damn i cant believe i lost so much ,  i used to have 43 inch bust size  only muscle, (i am down to 35 bust , 32 underbust) and 17.75 inch guns flex ( down  to 13.5 flex)   i dont know what shoulder circumference that was leading me to  omg.

I still feel like my shoulders are huge, sorry my dysphoria wont leave me.

so what are broad shoulder size?
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Jenna Marie

Average cis female shoulder width is 14-16", so I think you're fine. :)
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April_TO

I am also going to add something to what Jenna said earlier re: broad shoulder. In the context of female anatomy, they also consider this as the inverted triangle body shape when your shoulders is greater than your hips. So even if you have a typical cis female shoulder length but your hips is smaller than your shoulder than it's considered to be broad.

Btw, broad shouldered women are considered to be the queen of the runway. Most cis female models are broad shoulders with non existent hips. Take Giselle for example:

So don't worry be happy with your body :)


Quote from: archlord on November 15, 2015, 05:19:30 PM
I cant really find the correct info on the web but what are broad shoulder looks like?

i am currently 15 inch shoulder width and 45 inch circumference . Is this broad?

damn i cant believe i lost so much ,  i used to have 43 inch bust size  only muscle, (i am down to 35 bust , 32 underbust) and 17.75 inch guns flex ( down  to 13.5 flex)   i dont know what shoulder circumference that was leading me to  omg.

I still feel like my shoulders are huge, sorry my dysphoria wont leave me.

so what are broad shoulder size?
Nothing ventured nothing gained
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archlord

Oh yeah this makes sense. On my side i have nothing to worry about with those explaination thank you.  (my hips are 37.5 inch and fat hasnt started to redistribute there yet)



edit: i actually do have more hips then this woman on picture  lol.

Thank you , i feel less dysphoric now
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April_TO

Amazing, just be patient and before you know it men will be looking and staring at you constantly.
Hate when they do that ugh.

Hugs

Quote from: archlord on November 15, 2015, 06:12:08 PM
Oh yeah this makes sense. On my side i have nothing to worry about with those explaination thank you.  (my hips are 37.5 inch and fat hasnt started to redistribute there yet)



edit: i actually do have more hips then this woman on picture  lol.

Thank you , i feel less dysphoric now
Nothing ventured nothing gained
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Wild Flower

noticeably wider than hips and cant be disguise by high heels... To me are broad shoulders

I hate comparing ourselves to Gisele... Trans women dont pass because we have too many indicators... Like if we just had big feet (Kate Winslet), deep voice (Miley or Cher), or look manly (Jessica Sarah Parker), but we have blinkers more than one or two....so i think its best we focus on ourselves than.... Say one of the biggest models out there.
"Anyone who believes what a cat tells him deserves all he gets."
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Jill F

Quote from: Wild Flower on November 15, 2015, 06:58:22 PM
noticeably wider than hips and cant be disguise by high heels... To me are broad shoulders

I hate comparing ourselves to Gisele... Trans women dont pass because we have too many indicators... Like if we just had big feet (Kate Winslet), deep voice (Miley or Cher), or look manly (Jessica Sarah Parker), but we have blinkers more than one or two....so i think its best we focus on ourselves than.... Say one of the biggest models out there.

Umm, here's the thing-  I'm 6'2", I have broad shoulders, big feet, a deeper voice than most women, and well, keep going down the list.

I pass just fine. 

I don't worry about it, and in turn, neither does anyone else.  These days some people are actually shocked when I tell them my story.  I just accent everything about me that screams "female" and out the door I go, happy as a clam.
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April_TO

I understand. However, I was only pointing out that having broad shoulders shouldn't be a cause of worry to anyone.
As Jill mentioned, it takes a whole package to blend in and be seen in the gender you identify with.

Quote from: Wild Flower on November 15, 2015, 06:58:22 PM
noticeably wider than hips and cant be disguise by high heels... To me are broad shoulders

I hate comparing ourselves to Gisele... Trans women dont pass because we have too many indicators... Like if we just had big feet (Kate Winslet), deep voice (Miley or Cher), or look manly (Jessica Sarah Parker), but we have blinkers more than one or two....so i think its best we focus on ourselves than.... Say one of the biggest models out there.
Nothing ventured nothing gained
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Ms Grace

I would have thought height made a difference. The same width shoulders on someone five vs six feet tall will look quite different. I'm 6'3" and my shoulders are less wide than some shorter genetic cis women.
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Jenna Marie

I agree completely that it's about proportion, as well; a curvy/hourglass woman can get away with much broader shoulders if they're balanced by bigger hips. My wife, for example, has 22" shoulders... and nobody's ever even noticed, probably because her hips are about 24" across.
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archlord

I agree with you . It is all about proportion. It is however easier to find clothes when you are in standard range.

I just checked and my hips are 16" across and 15 " shoulder to shoulder. I guess i should just enjoy the ride and stop worrying so much about what will happen, i just cant control it anyway.
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melissa_h

A signal to me at least, on how broad my shoulders are is clothes sizing.  I'm typically a 20 for tops and an 18 for bottoms (which will drop further as I lose more weight, stretchy 16s work now).  I don't think much will reduce up top though, mixing in eventual breast growth virtually guarantees that. ;)

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LittleV

Hello,

I was wondering myself the same question and over the years of research I've come to the following calculations.
Source material for my research were photos of women (most of the fashion icons and celebrities), and various clothing size charts and anthropometrical data I have been gathering for years.

Way one of telling if the shoulders are too wide is by comparing the with the head width. Some of you may know that average male shoulder is 3 times the width of the head. Some sources say that the number for females is 2. The latter is for the most part unprecise and does not encompass the true range of female shoulder width.
Generally, for the shoulder size as compared to head width, what you do is take a photo from full frontal angle (with as little as possible vertical abberation) and measure the optical width of your head at the widest part - over the ears, or if your hair covers your ears, just measure the width where you judge your helixes might be.
Next, take the measurement of the biacromial width of your shoulders. For more plump ladies, do not measure the deposits on the side of your arms past the deltoid. The best is if you can measure between each shoulder bones (for reference try to feel it and guess where it might be on the picture).
Divide shoulder width by head width and you should get a number of somewhere between 2 and 3. For more precise results upload the image to your computer and zoom in.
- From my calculations I've done over the years is range for female shoulder-to-head ratio for most women is between 2 to 2.6. Anything bigger than 2.66 falls outside of female range.
Off course, for women with fuller hairdos, they would most likely fall in the lower ranges, and women with narrower faces and thus heads should not be concerned for hitting the upper ranges or even falling a bit out.

On the other side, there is another way of telling if one's shoulders are wide, and that is by comparing to the hips width, at the widest point. (For lack of photos of full body figures that aren't taken at an angle I've used charts and anthropometric data)
Measure your shoulders bone-to-bone, measure your hips at the widest point (I know it is difficult, but there are ways; stand in corner of the room, press lightly against one wall with your hip, put a triangular ruler at the other hips so it touches your hip and lays perpendicular to the wall, If you have someone to help you that would be preferable, and lastly measure between the point of the ruler and your oppossite side).
For most girls the difference between these two measurements is from 1 to 3 inches. Again, ladies with large body frame sizes will be ok if they stand close to the 3 inches margin, and slimmer girls and petite girl would most likely fall in the 1-2.5 range.
But generally, 2 to 3 inches difference looks ok on most women. And if you have an eye for this, you can see on that these kind of proportions on most women in real life.

I hope my input here will help anyone. Again, these are only my calculations and anyone can do a research on their own. Eitherway, have fun.

V.
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