Ok so this is something that's really bothering me, wanted to get some opinions, or if anyone else has had this problem.

I started testosterone cypionate about 5 years ago. About 2-3 months in I noticed some swelling under my chin, I figured it was water weight, a lot of guys get the chubby face.  Fast forward 5 years later, its still there. Its something I am super super self conscious about, it looks like a double chin, when I swallow it moves and I feel like a frog. 

its not HUGE, nothing that would cause people to stare I don't think, but it is noticeable

I can't stand to look in the mirror unless I position my face in a way that I cant see it. You know how if you tuck your chin in, it makes a double chin? well mine just looks like that always, and I know its not an actual double chin because 1) I am thin 5'7 130lbs and 2) it doesnt feel fatty, it feels almost ballonish, less squishy then body fat, its more firm but not hard at all either.

I have mentioned it to doctors and they just seem to brush it off, and once I went to a dr for a cold and she said my lymph nodes were swollen (common cold symptom) and I said they are always like that.

So I thought, maybe its an allergic reaction to my T cypionate, so I am going to try to get my dr to switch me to enanthate, hopefully that helps, cause this really plummets my self esteem and I pretty much have to completely dissociate it to feel attractive at all. Anyone know what type of doctor I would even go to for this? I don't want it to be brushed off, because there is no pain or anything, its just cosmetic.. idk

anyone heard of this before?

Go and see your Doctor!!!!

Maybe Ludwig's angina due to teeth problems.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig%27s_angina

Ludwig's angina, otherwise known as angina ludovici, is a serious, potentially life-threatening cellulitis,[1] or connective tissue infection, of the floor of the mouth, usually occurring in adults with concomitant dental infections and if left untreated, may obstruct the airways, necessitating tracheotomy.

You should see either an ENT or an Endo. Endo over ENT if it extends further down towards your adam's apple at all, as it's possibly a "goiter" (thyroid). Otherwise, good effing luck getting a GP to correctly diagnose anything beyond the sniffles. It's just about impossible. Endocrine issues especially appear to be wildly over their heads. Took me six years to sort out my insulin issues (knew I had them; like pulling frigging teeth to get the damn doc to LISTEN) that several GP's declared fine (finally took an ER resident after insulin shock and then finally an Endo, that aforesaid ER resident referred me out to). If a thyroid issue, they're not always simple to nail down and IMO, the lab ranges are too generous. GP's miss it or dismiss it, or "maybe it's psychosomatic" etc. etc. seems to be their default. Anyway. Typically, an allergy wouldn't present like that... if it were the T, I'd expect a localized reaction at the injection site (red and itchy), which OTC antihistamine would sort out.

Although, if any T was inadvertently injected into a lymph vessel that would definitely explain the lymph-nodes popping out (not just near the injection sites either). Lymph vessels are everywhere, but very populous in the legs (among a few reasons why it's recommended to administer in the glutes; far less vessels and other connective tissues in there to hit). You are aspirating before injecting, right? If you ever see more than just a little clear-ish fluid entering the barrel, you should pull out and inject elsewhere... same deal as if you see blood. T, rather the oil, does NOT belong in the lymph system. It can gum up the works. And if that happens more than occasionally, it's a good indication that your needles may be too short.

Of course, not saying either or is definitely the culprit, but possibilities and that you should discuss with either specialist.

Thanks for letting me know what type of doctor to try, that does stand for eyes, nose, throat right?

Yes, I always aspirate my needle, I do inject in my thigh, hove low body fat and use an inch long needle, so I think that should be long enough to get into the muscle.

I think it might be a goiter. My Endo checks my throat every time I go there for an appointment and he had me go get an ultrasound because I have one. It just had little air pockets in it, nothing life threatening. It can become really hard to swallow sometimes and can even be very painful, almost like swallowing a knife.

Quote from: RaptorChops on November 23, 2015, 08:22:25 PM
I think it might be a goiter. My Endo checks my throat every time I go there for an appointment and he had me go get an ultrasound because I have one. It just had little air pockets in it, nothing life threatening. It can become really hard to swallow sometimes and can even be very painful, almost like swallowing a knife.

so were you able to have it removed? Did your endo say it had anything to do with T? I feel absolutely no pain, no discomfort or anything though.

aren't goiters under the adams apple? my lump is right under my chin, under my jaw, not on my neck

The gland in question spreads out further than the base of your neck; up (actually, think of a bow-tie... basically what it is). If it is a goiter, it can have other effects... such as the swollen lymph nodes in the neck (even the ones sort of under your tongue). Basically, if that's what it is, your thyroid's inflamed/enlarged. It can block pathways, build up pressure, and screw other things up. Get checked out.

Ear, Nose and Throat actually. You can go to either or, unless you require a "specialist referral" first (from a GP). But if it's endocrine in nature, you'll have the best shot of getting down to the bottom of it with the Endo over the ENT.

A LOT of people with thyroid issues are asymptomatic. Not unlike diabetics, really... don't know there's a problem until a routine lab flags it, or it gets bad enough to make itself known in you feeling like hammered crap.

In any case, definitely DO get checked out and DON'T let them brush it off anymore. Seek another opinion if the morons still won't listen to you. You're under no obligation to deal with physicians like that.

Quote from: Elijah on November 23, 2015, 09:24:58 PM
so were you able to have it removed? Did your endo say it had anything to do with T? I feel absolutely no pain, no discomfort or anything though.

aren't goiters under the adams apple? my lump is right under my chin, under my jaw, not on my neck

I have not had it removed. My grandmother had one so I think it may be hereditary. They say if you eat a lot of foods with iodine it can cause them too. And yeah goiters are usually around the thyroid gland in the throat. Mine was not related to the T, I have had it for awhile and he noticed it before I even started T. He just tells me to get an ultrasound every year or so just to make sure there isn't any tumors. So i'm not too concerned with it and won't have it removed until I have to. So it's probably like you said a swollen lymph node. I would ask your Endo if he can refer you for an ultrasound to get it checked out.