SWIM is genderqueer and wants to be taken seriously.
This person wants ONLY clit / genital growth on T.
Not deepening of the voice, no facial hair, etc.
But has SEVERE bottom Dysphoria.
SWIM can't live with his/her vagina and wants growth + SRS.

1. Is this possible ?

2. Will cilnics take SWIM seriously ?

3. How do you think this is managable?

Thank you so much.

I can't see how they can take T and not have other effects too. I'd imagine that if they were taking sufficient T to result in clitoris growth there would be significant other masculinisations. That's not to say their issues and dysphoria are not valid It's just that Awe can't cherry pick the results we want from HRT.

Quote from: Ms Grace on November 11, 2015, 01:27:31 PM
I can't see how they can take T and not have other effects too. I'd imagine that if they were taking sufficient T to result in clitoris growth there would be significant other masculinisations. That's not to say their issues and dysphoria are not valid It's just that Awe can't cherry pick the results we want from HRT.

Well, there is a gender queer in america, who did only a few drops of DHT on their genitals and their didn't notice any other side effects. and to note: I really want growth. So I will find out how to do this, I am hoping to try the drops, once in a month, a few drops. that it is so extremely low that it only effects my genitals, or minimum changes furthermore. I need this desperately because I would be intensivly happy with any growth down there, believe me, there are ways, but people like me, aren't that usual.

I am pretty sure DHT is only prescribed if you have been on T for a couple of years (but I don't know a lot about it). If you go on T you are going to experience the other changes no matter what. One could go on a lower dose of T so the changes are slower and stop at any point to revert some of the changes (like fat distribution) but that wouldn't work for the nonreversable ones obviously like voice deepening.

I've been told that applying T in any topical form, drops or gel, of sufficient amounts for sufficient time, will result in other effects. I'm not sure how you could possibly apply it to that area and not have it also be absorbed into the tissues and eventually find your blood and circulation, carrying it and its effects all over your body. The only way I'm thinking is that you apply it in insufficient quantities for a shorter amount of time before it initiates hair growth, voice deepening and fat redistribution. But I also hear it's not advisable to screw about with T dosage, as if it does have other effects, voice deepening can stop halfway through, leaving someone with a half-formed male voice. I'm not sure how true that is, but I have heard this story in more than one place... people not taking the recommended dosages and confusing their bodies.

I have only heard of doctors prescribing DHT for guys that have been on T for at least a year and are planning on metoidioplasty. It isn't prescribed in place of T, but rather in addition to it, in order to achieve additional downstairs growth to improve surgical results. AFAIK, it is not possible to get full dose DHT in America. It would be the responsibility of the prescribing doctor to tell you where to go to get it filled.

Ultimately, you're going to have to make a choice. You can't choose what effects you'll have on T. I can't think of any surgeons that will perform FTM SRS without the patient having been on testosterone. Depending on what kind of SRS you want, you may really need the T to get the kind of results you want.

I'd say, whatever procedure you want to have, call or email a surgeon that performs it and ask them your questions. They're the only ones who can say for sure if what you want is a possibility based on the current rules.

Surgeries are the only way I can see. There's no way you can pick some changes on T and not the other. If one doc doesn't take you seriously, just go to another.

You might try out Thailand too. The docs are quite good and the rules are not as rigid. Just make sure to pick credible clinics.

Well, on Testosterone the middle part (Not sure what it's called) where urine in delivered grows. There is surgery where it can be reshaped to look more like a penis. However, this will get no longer than 3 inches. It's small, sure. But you can pee standing up, so that's good. However sex, both anal and threw the vaginal office is difficult, almost impossible. Just some things to consider.
Hope this helps. 

Quote from: Pegasus6060 on November 28, 2015, 12:36:12 AM
Well, on Testosterone the middle part (Not sure what it's called) where urine in delivered grows. There is surgery where it can be reshaped to look more like a penis. However, this will get no longer than 3 inches. It's small, sure. But you can pee standing up, so that's good. However sex, both anal and threw the vaginal office is difficult, almost impossible. Just some things to consider.
Hope this helps. 

Sorry, but this is incorrect. Urine is not voided through the clitoris.

On testosterone, the clitoris can grow to 2-3 inches on average. Metoidioplasty releases the ligaments around the clitoris, bringing it into a more prominent position. Additional procedures can be done at the same time to move and lengthen the natural urethra (which is below the clitoris in a separate hole in the opening) to the tip of the clitoris so that you could pee from it like a penis.

Some guys are able to achieve penetration, especially in certain positions. Many guys prefer it over phalloplasty due to the much lower chance for loss of sensation.