Psychological health is directly correlated with how nice people are to you. That's why good looking, affluent people have it all, intelligence, stability, and psychological health, above the mean. 

Being cruel to someone, even if "only joking", or telling "hard truths" (that actually more reduce to your values, and opinions rather than facts) does people damage.

"Over-sensitivity", and "PC" are just delegitimizing catch phrases, and not actual points, or objections, but names you call someone in order to dismiss their objections of abuse. Names we don't want to be called, when we want to be cool, and liked, and not associated with the frantic, the no fun, the hysteric.

Mean people are the ones that ruin the fun, not the ones unwilling to conceal their hurt, and pretend like everything is fine, while being mocked, or ridiculed, because they're such good sports.

Will also say, that "egotism" is most definitely not the opposite of a lack of self-esteem, as narcissists are definitely not the posture child for self-esteem. The need to self-elevate, to self-promote, self-aggrandize is rooted in a low self esteem, as it is about molding, or effecting perceptions of oneself by others. It is rooted in the feeling that one isn't good enough as one is, and thus has to convince people that you possess all of these amazing attributes in order to feel secure about oneself.

 

Quote from: iKate on November 29, 2015, 12:00:19 PM
Do you know that if that pic in your avatar is truly you, some people would do a double take if they see you in a women's restroom?

Quote from: iKate on November 29, 2015, 01:12:10 PM
I am really trying to be nice here but I know people who would definitely clock you.

Wow, that's so sweet of you.

P.S. KathleenMarie, you look amazing.

Quote from: Elsa Delyth on November 29, 2015, 03:34:10 PM
Psychological health is directly correlated with how nice people are to you. That's why good looking, affluent people have it all, intelligence, stability, and psychological health, above the mean. 

Being cruel to someone, even if "only joking", or telling "hard truths" (that actually more reduce to your values, and opinions rather than facts) does people damage.

"Over-sensitivity", and "PC" are just delegitimizing catch phrases, and not actual points, or objections, but names you call someone in order to dismiss their objections of abuse. Names we don't want to be called, when we want to be cool, and liked, and not associated with the frantic, the no fun, the hysteric.

Mean people are the ones that ruin the fun, not the ones unwilling to conceal their hurt, and pretend like everything is fine, while being mocked, or ridiculed, because they're such good sports.

Will also say, that "egotism" is most definitely not the opposite of a lack of self-esteem, as narcissists are definitely not the posture child for self-esteem. The need to self-elevate, to self-promote, self-aggrandize is rooted in a low self esteem, as it is about molding, or effecting perceptions of oneself by others. It is rooted in the feeling that one isn't good enough as one is, and thus has to convince people that you possess all of these amazing attributes in order to feel secure about oneself.

 

I can't agree with everything you said. Of course no one should be disrespecting people and we do need more tolerance and respect from others towards people in our community but someone's physcological health shouldn't and doesn't reflect 100% of how nice or mean people are to you. But then again everybody has a different mindset. I think us as transgender people need to make sure we know who we are and find things to stay confident about even tho it can be hard sometimes because we will always get good and bad treatment in general. When I first started transitioning I got treated more bad than good and I was put down by many people I knew but I remained confident because I knew it was just their opinion and their terrible way of thinking so I just felt bad for them. When my dad would try and make me feel bad I would always remain happy knowing that I'm going to eventually become to woman I am no matter what. We all deserve respect and it does help with confidence but you should never rely on what people say to determine how you feel about yourself.

Quote from: NataliaDoll on November 29, 2015, 04:10:11 PM
I can't agree with everything you said. Of course no one should be disrespecting people and we do need more tolerance and respect from others towards people in our community but someone's physcological health shouldn't and doesn't reflect 100% of how nice or mean people are to you. But then again everybody has a different mindset. I think us as transgender people need to make sure we know who we are and find things to stay confident about even tho it can be hard sometimes because we will always get good and bad treatment in general. When I first started transitioning I got treated more bad than good and I was put down by many people I knew but I remained confident because I knew it was just their opinion and their terrible way of thinking so I just felt bad for them. When my dad would try and make me feel bad I would always remain happy knowing that I'm going to eventually become to woman I am no matter what. We all deserve respect and it does help with confidence but you should never rely on what people say to determine how you feel about yourself.

Well, I didn't remotely come near to saying that it "100%" reflected it, I said that it was correlated, which doesn't even necessarily imply causation in any sense, but just suggests that they're related.

I would take it further than I did though, and say that they're most definitely related. There is something they call "resilience", which is basically one's ability to deal with abuse, adversity, and stress without cracking, but everyone cracks under enough pressure, and the damaged crack all the more easily under later pressures.

Maybe it ought not be that way, but unfortunately, many things that ought not be, are.

Quote from: Ⓥ on November 29, 2015, 04:06:11 PM
Wow, that's so sweet of you.

P.S. KathleenMarie, you look amazing.

To be totally fair though, she said from the outset she didn't mind misgendering.

And thanks for the selective quoting where you didn't quote that I said that people would clock me or many other Trans women either.

I wanted to point that out because she made the comment that we shouldn't get upset that we can't use the women's loo the day we come out. That dismisses and minimizes the real struggle of Trans women who even after years of hormones are still misgendered every day and can't use the restroom without fear, or women who have had voice surgery or extensive training still being called "sir" on the phone.

But I guess she has passing privilege? That's kind of bold. She did say she lives in a liberal area so that may help her.

Cool off folks.
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