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Post-Op off all hormones for 4 years, Now worried about my health

Started by Turnip, December 02, 2015, 09:10:05 AM

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Laura_7

Quote from: KayXo on December 04, 2015, 03:09:52 PM
What is a low dose? A low dose for one person may be a strong dose for another. Sensitivity between individuals varies. It's very tricky and is still a gamble. For me. To each their own. I wouldn't personally take a chance and do fine without testosterone. :) I think the issue may be more an inadequate prescription of female hormones resulting in low drive, mood and low libido, the latter being also very much a mental thing so hormones aren't absolutely essential for that, in my opinion.
Many people start out with gel.
So a low dose can be tried and upped if necessary. And its possible to stop from one day to the next.

Its really a mix where testo also plays a role.
In your case a level of 20 is sufficient.
There are others who have levels of almost zero, where an upping of the level helped.
Its also a well known effect for menopausal women.
There are even small dose testosterone implants specifically for menopausal women.


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Laura_7

powermd.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Testosterone-Patch-increases-Sexual-Desire-in-Menopausal-Women.pdf

Conclusions: The 300-µg/d testosterone patch in-
creased sexual desire and frequency of satisfying sexual
activity and was well tolerated in women who devel-
oped hypoactive sexual desire disorder after surgical
menopause.
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KayXo

But perhaps just prescribing estrogen to these women could have achieved the same results without the potential side-(masculinizing) effects  from testosterone.

This one interesting study on rhesus macaques, primates like us, showed that giving testosterone or estrone to females increased 2 out of 3 proceptive (courting) or sexual behaviors while estradiol given in a much lower dose increased all 3!!! DHT did nothing, nada! Also, not surprisingly, DHT and T did not affect male contact or mounting on females but both estrone and estradiol DID. So, estradiol not only increased female flirting and sexual play but made them more attractive sexually to males in contrast to T and especially DHT.

Also, very funny, is that both T and DHT increased yawning in females...hahahaha! while neither estrone nor estradiol did that.

I would say that estradiol is the clear winner, wouldn't you? :)
I am not a medical doctor, nor a scientist - opinions expressed by me on the subject of HRT are merely based on my own review of some of the scientific literature over the last decade or so, on anecdotal evidence from women in various discussion forums that I have come across, and my personal experience

On HRT since early 2004
Post-op since late 2005
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Laura_7

Quote from: KayXo on December 05, 2015, 10:21:45 PM
But perhaps just prescribing estrogen to these women could have achieved the same results without the potential side-(masculinizing) effects  from testosterone.

This one interesting study on rhesus macaques, primates like us, showed that giving testosterone or estrone to females increased 2 out of 3 proceptive (courting) or sexual behaviors while estradiol given in a much lower dose increased all 3!!! DHT did nothing, nada! Also, not surprisingly, DHT and T did not affect male contact or mounting on females but both estrone and estradiol DID. So, estradiol not only increased female flirting and sexual play but made them more attractive sexually to males in contrast to T and especially DHT.

Also, very funny, is that both T and DHT increased yawning in females...hahahaha! while neither estrone nor estradiol did that.

I would say that estradiol is the clear winner, wouldn't you? :)

As said its a mix.

Levels of estrogen and bioidentical progesterone imo should be high enough, well in the female range. Above the menopausal range.

Often people are in the menopausal range.

If there are issues then still, testo might be added imo.

Yep, very funny  :)


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KayXo

FYI, forgot to mention ...yawning in males is intended to intimidate, threaten so could have been a result of increased aggression in females due to testosterone and DHT.
I am not a medical doctor, nor a scientist - opinions expressed by me on the subject of HRT are merely based on my own review of some of the scientific literature over the last decade or so, on anecdotal evidence from women in various discussion forums that I have come across, and my personal experience

On HRT since early 2004
Post-op since late 2005
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