I want very long hair, like down to my butt. Will estorgen make it grow faster? I'm clueless on how hormone regimen works xD

This might help:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,167887.msg1661891.html#msg1661891


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Maybe. Down to your butt is going to take a few years though. I started 1 year ago and it's just past my shoulders now.

Everyone has a terminal hair length which s the point at which your hair sheds. Also if you have your hair chemically treated (color, highlights, etc.) this can affect how long your hair is able to grow. My hair is at the middle of my back, and I have been getting highlights since the year 2000.

Mine has been growing for a year and in the back is nearly to my shoulders and on the sides to the bottom of my jaw.  It started out at about 1/8 inch on the sides and pretty much shaved in the back.

It keeps growing but a little slower than I expected.


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HRT didn't make my hair grow any faster or thicker, nor did it help with the (pretty significant) balding I was experiencing. I eventually had to resort to getting a hair transplant.

You will probably need to get extensions if you want your hair down to your behind. Even the typical cis girl often cannot grow their natural hair that long because as Kittenpower stated, your hair will reach a point where it will shed and not grow any further.

I've been growing my hair for almost TWO years now and it has barely passed my upper back and collar bone area, it goes down to about where my boobs are. Pretty slow if you ask me.

yes it does, but id still say the chances of it happening also depends on your genetics. i had avg hair growth ~6inches a year, but now ever since i started hrt my hair is growing 2-3x faster (only longer, not thicker), and it's crazy. i trimmed 2-3 inches off 2 months ago and now it's all come back!

im not taking any hair growth boosters at all.

No.Mine has been long(below shoulder) or longer for most of the past 35 years and HRT didn't change anything. It's thinner due to aging and that's about all.

Quote from: .Christy on December 06, 2015, 04:32:06 PM
yes it does, but id still say the chances of it happening also depends on your genetics. i had avg hair growth ~6inches a year, but now ever since i started hrt my hair is growing 2-3x faster (only longer, not thicker), and it's crazy. i trimmed 2-3 inches off 2 months ago and now it's all come back!

im not taking any hair growth boosters at all.

Christy you're looking really pretty girl!

I'm envious of your superwoman-like hair growth. AND you're not taking supplements to help with the growth? Yeah, I give up.

I have been growing my hair longer for a few years and my hair if i do not have my sister that owns s salon dye my hair and cut off the split ends it will slow way down in growing. I have been very luck on the average my hair grows around 3/4of and inch each month. and when i get my hair dyed she cuts all the ends off maybe 1/8 of and inch. also all my hair is silver white and my twin sister said now that you want to look like me you will need to dye your hair.LOL we were both Blondes when growing up and now I have been Blonde again for 4 Years. I do not think that estrogen makes you hair grow faster. I do know that my hair is softer and a lot more has filled in were it was thinner. I do also know that it will not fill in a spot if you were balling. I'm very luck that way I have a very health head of hair.

Lyndsey

Biotin is making mine grow like a weed.

I am currently using Peter Lamas Chinese Herbs Revitalizing line and my hair has been growing about 3/4 of an inch each month. It is a bit expensive but it's worth your money. I am also taking Folic Acid and Biotin which helps with the shedding (I hardly shed in a day). My hair has become quite dense and grows steadily.

Also being on P, it is very effective in preventing DHT from getting to your hair compared to Estro and Spiro combined. So consider all your options before you resort to surgery.

Quote from this resource: http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_m2f.htm

PROMETRUIM vs. PROVERA: A study was done on the effectiveness of Provera vs. Progesterone on 5-alpha-reductase inhibition (which prevents Testosterone to DHT conversion). The study checked [natural] progesterone, medroxyprogesterone acetate [i.e. Provera], levonorgestrel, norethindrone, 17-beta estradiol [natural estrogen], and ethinyl estradiol [i.e., synthetic estrogen].

The results on 5-ARD inhibition:


Conclusion: Natural progesterone (i.e. Prometrium) is the most effective at preventing T-DHT conversion while medroxyprogesterone (i.e., Provera) is completely ineffective. Even natural estrogen was more effective.

So, if the HRT regimen is ethinyl estradiol and Provera the patient should supplement with Finasteride (Propecia/Proscar) to inhibit T-DHT conversion. Obviously taking Provera isn't going to inhibit the formation of DHT at all, so there's no reason to take it.

I should note that the above effectiveness percentages refer to SERUM levels. 5-AR and DHT are also active at localized places within the skin, where effectiveness is roughly halved. This makes a strong argument in favor of using a topical form of progesterone if the purpose of taking Pg is to combat the effects of DHT on hair follicles. As progesterone tends to collect in fatty tissues any infused cream/lotion/gel/foam should be applied at points on the body with high levels of blood circulation and low levels of fat (a the wrists and hands for example).

Long-term use of progestins like Provera have been more closely associated with the development of breast cancer, while long-term use of progesterone appears to offer a protective effect against breast cancer, possibly due to an insulin-related effect that is present with natural progesterone, but is not present when using progestins or just estrogen.

Quote from: April_TO on December 06, 2015, 09:34:29 PM
I am currently using Peter Lamas Chinese Herbs Revitalizing line and my hair has been growing about 3/4 of an inch each month. It is a bit expensive but it's worth your money. I am also taking Folic Acid and Biotin which helps with the shedding (I hardly shed in a day). My hair has become quite dense and grows steadily.

Also being on P, it is very effective in preventing DHT from getting to your hair compared to Estro and Spiro combined. So consider all your options before you resort to surgery.

Quote from this resource: http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_m2f.htm

PROMETRUIM vs. PROVERA: A study was done on the effectiveness of Provera vs. Progesterone on 5-alpha-reductase inhibition (which prevents Testosterone to DHT conversion). The study checked [natural] progesterone, medroxyprogesterone acetate [i.e. Provera], levonorgestrel, norethindrone, 17-beta estradiol [natural estrogen], and ethinyl estradiol [i.e., synthetic estrogen].

The results on 5-ARD inhibition:


Conclusion: Natural progesterone (i.e. Prometrium) is the most effective at preventing T-DHT conversion while medroxyprogesterone (i.e., Provera) is completely ineffective. Even natural estrogen was more effective.

So, if the HRT regimen is ethinyl estradiol and Provera the patient should supplement with Finasteride (Propecia/Proscar) to inhibit T-DHT conversion. Obviously taking Provera isn't going to inhibit the formation of DHT at all, so there's no reason to take it.

I should note that the above effectiveness percentages refer to SERUM levels. 5-AR and DHT are also active at localized places within the skin, where effectiveness is roughly halved. This makes a strong argument in favor of using a topical form of progesterone if the purpose of taking Pg is to combat the effects of DHT on hair follicles. As progesterone tends to collect in fatty tissues any infused cream/lotion/gel/foam should be applied at points on the body with high levels of blood circulation and low levels of fat (a the wrists and hands for example).

Long-term use of progestins like Provera have been more closely associated with the development of breast cancer, while long-term use of progesterone appears to offer a protective effect against breast cancer, possibly due to an insulin-related effect that is present with natural progesterone, but is not present when using progestins or just estrogen.

So what your saying is to use a progesterone cream to make hair grow?

Simply answer:  NO!

Yes or use an oral form of P.

Quote from: ChasingAlice on December 06, 2015, 10:25:40 PM
So what your saying is to use a progesterone cream to make hair grow?

Yes they can, but the right nutrition going in the body is essential too. You can't make something from nothing when trying to grow hair and nails without the right nutrients in the body. Hugs
Mariah

Quote from: ChasingAlice on December 06, 2015, 09:07:27 PM
Biotin is making mine grow like a weed.

420 in nature, or crabgrass? 

Quote from: April_TO on December 06, 2015, 09:34:29 PM
Also being on P, it is very effective in preventing DHT from getting to your hair compared to Estro and Spiro combined. So consider all your options before you resort to surgery.

Quote from this resource: http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_m2f.htm

PROMETRUIM vs. PROVERA: A study was done on the effectiveness of Provera vs. Progesterone on 5-alpha-reductase inhibition (which prevents Testosterone to DHT conversion). The study checked [natural] progesterone, medroxyprogesterone acetate [i.e. Provera], levonorgestrel, norethindrone, 17-beta estradiol [natural estrogen], and ethinyl estradiol [i.e., synthetic estrogen].

This was debunked with quite a few studies.

I see, then take it with a grain of salt. In my own experience, my hair has become denser and healthier ever since I started taking P. Could it be a placebo effect? Hard to say.

Anyways, whatever works for you.

Quote from: Lagertha on December 07, 2015, 10:28:44 AM
This was debunked with quite a few studies.

Many people report improved hair quality with addition of Progesterone. But for 5-alpha-reductase inhibition has not been shown to be very effective. I dont know what was the case with the results on website you linked- I remember reading exactly that website few years ago- but several other studies showed only subtle capabilities at blocking DHT conversion. I have a plan to stop dutasteride before SRS, and do a few tests on S-DHT. After that we will add progesterone, and do a few more blood tests.