Just another personal comment, there aint nothing wrong with my orgasms I get I certainly don't need those things to have them either and they are way more intense then they were before.

Cindy

Quote from: ell on December 22, 2007, 06:15:41 PM

Quote from: Rebis on December 22, 2007, 04:16:47 PM

Which reminds me, don't forget there's going to be another person on top of you sometimes and their body weight may be pressing down on those things or possibly even bumping against them.   I don't care what anybody says.  It has to be painful.

Ah ha ha! Rebis, you are so funny. always thinking ahead.

i don't see why we can't accept this as an alternative lifestyle. yes, it's hard to think of her as a girl, but since she presents herself as one, i must assume she wants to be referred to as "miss." though i don't want them, i still have mine, and they never stopped me from being girly. you know?

so, as my Chinese friend says, "reave a girl arone!"

alright! ok, i'm going...

-ell

Oh, I have no problem with anyone's personal decision on how to live.  It's just that I have accidentally had my testes pushed up where they don't belong and it hurts hurts hurts.  I just have this intense fear that someone will suffer pain they hadn't foreseen by doing this.  Other than that, I'm fine with whatever decision a person makes concerning their body.


Rebis

Posted on: December 22, 2007, 11:11:17 PM

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Quote from: Natasha on December 22, 2007, 06:55:07 PM
For your information.  I don't believe in anything "outside" the box.  Nice to meet you too!

most everything fine and good in this life is outside the box

Posted on: December 22, 2007, 11:13:09 PM

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Quote from: cindybc on December 22, 2007, 07:51:02 PM
My comment on testicles Is my opinion only and no one else's and the darn things reside in another dimension now anyway along with the other apendage.

Cindy

I like that statement.

I wonder what it's like in that dimension?     

Posted on: December 22, 2007, 11:15:33 PM

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Quote from: Robyn on December 22, 2007, 07:54:31 PM

Quote from: Rebis on December 22, 2007, 04:40:51 PM
I suppose they'd be worth keeping if you could dry them out and carve them into a pair of dice.  Then, they'd at least be useful and you could just play with them anywhere you go without being yelled at.

Hmmmm.  Hang them over the rear view mirror of your car.

Roby

nice touch.  would they have to be fuzzy?   

Hi Rebis
Well I had them sent to another dimension and I don't really care where those nasty things went to, perhaps testicle heaven along with with my pee pee? Or what about in a dusty desert like gulch on another planet in another dimension? Just not Mars, that's my planet and I have first bids on it when it gets teraformed to its original state as a water world. I can see the Dunes of Mars Warrior Princess standing atop a huge cliff over looking the Turquoise Ocean with her long hair streaming behind her in the wind coming from the ocean. She closes her black eyes with the long lashes and spreads her arms out in thanks giving prayer for her revived home.

Cindy 

And here I was thinking this place had calmed down since I stopped reading most of the threads here  .

But no, here we are with a good old fashioned (for the most part) "OMG she's not like me! How much of an effing FREAK is she!" thread. Just lovely. Freaking lovely. Lets bring out the burning ->-bleeped-<- cross, while we're at it. I'll wear a hood and everything.

I'd sooner have this type of surgery than be in the same room with any of the people posting their disgust about it. Not that I would ever have this kind of surgery. So at least you know where you stand with me then  .

Megan

Quote from: MeganRose on December 23, 2007, 04:46:22 AM
And here I was thinking this place had calmed down since I stopped reading most of the threads here  .

But no, here we are with a good old fashioned (for the most part) "OMG she's not like me! How much of an effing FREAK is she!" thread. Just lovely. Freaking lovely. Lets bring out the burning ->-bleeped-<- cross, while we're at it. I'll wear a hood and everything.

I'd sooner have this type of surgery than be in the same room with any of the people posting their disgust about it. Not that I would ever have this kind of surgery. So at least you know where you stand with me then  .

Megan

It's good old fashioned fear MeganRose... "Different" appears to equal "Threatening"  Not quite sure where when or how this happened but as the world turns...  And for the record had I been born with testicles I wouldn't want to keep them either.  However, I don't consider those who think different from me to be wrong. . . Just different.  "different strokes for different folks"  "whatever floats your boat" "whatever fries your bacon".... you see what I'm getting at.

Quote from: Tink on December 23, 2007, 05:18:34 AM
First off, I were transsexual and a newbie, I would take into consideration the opinons of transsexuals or those who identified as I did. 

tink

So it's better that new people to the community buy into the hate and prejudice of the people already here that should know better?

Excuse me while I vomit in disgust.

Megan

Quote from: Tink on December 23, 2007, 05:18:34 AM
First off, I were transsexual and a newbie, I would take into consideration the opinons of transsexuals or those who identified as I did. 

tink

Luckily the first person I ever came out to was another TS who gave me a long lecture about not listening to anybody who insists that their path is the only valid one.  Furthermore, I don't identify as you do, in the slightest, thank god.

Quote from: Tink on December 23, 2007, 05:25:02 AM

Feel free and vomit, that is YOUR choice! 

tink

It's not my choice.

I can't help but feel sickened by people acting this way. Hate and prejudice is not something that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy, you know? I can , however, understand if thats a bit difficult for some people here to understand. I just dont approve of it, and I think it's important to make my feelings be heard as clearly as possible.

Megan

Quote from: Tink on December 23, 2007, 05:31:01 AM

Quote from: Andra on December 23, 2007, 05:26:42 AM
Luckily the first person I ever came out to was another TS who gave me a long lecture about not listening to anybody who insists that their path is the only valid one.  Furthermore, I don't identify as you do, in the slightest, thank god.

Oh really? I would like to know who this SO called TS is?  LOL 

tink

Somebody who is very happily several years post-op.  TBH you're so close minded who knows WHAT your actual identity is...  I sure wouldn't like to put money on it.

Thank you Megan Rose!!!!!!!

I feel the same way about the reactions the "vets" here have posted. Those feelings and viewpoints are EXACTLY the same as non-transgendered people's on who we are. They would say, "Why aren't they happy with what they are born with, they must be freaks."

For some of you people, to be in your situation, you have no grounds to be discriminatory. I quit this forum before, and I regret going back and reading things like this.

Who is to say who qualifies for SRS. One can even make a case that those who are transgendered, gay, etc. are not normal people, that they have genetic flaws, (i.e., that your decision does not lead to procreation), and should be put down.

Great freakin' merry christmas. Get off your high horses.

Quote from: anonymous123 on December 23, 2007, 05:47:19 AM
Thank you Megan Rose!!!!!!!

I feel the same way about the reactions the "vets" here have posted. Those feelings and viewpoints are EXACTLY the same as non-transgendered people's on who we are. They would say, "Why aren't they happy with what they are born with, they must be freaks."

Exactly we're all freaks in the eyes of society.  Most of us don't deserve it, those 'freaks' who get off on calling those even less 'normal' than themselves freaks however, do deserve it.  You just know some people here would be massive transphobes had they been born in the right body.

Quote from: AndraExactly we're all freaks in the eyes of society.  Most of us don't deserve it

We? is way too  many people, Andra   Ooh I deserve IT and I demand IT everywhere I go.  tha's MY right.  dont you feel it is yours?

Hi
For the most part some of us were simply only making fun about testes. Not telling anyone what to think, feel or do about it. Yes I am post-op so what's wrong with joking about certain parts of our body that we went through a lot of pain even fear of dying, I didn't know what to expect I never had any kind of surgery before, and not to mention thee money to have them removed. I am sincerely sorry if that offended someone, it wasn't meant to be. What ever floats your boat and I hope it don't spring a leak.

Cindy

i think some of the reactions here against Tink are a bit much, and um, so please back off.

Ok, i'm crawling back to my rock...

-ell

Hey, Hey, Hey  I dont think a single person here is disgusted by the individual, they expressed thier disgust towards testicles,  I didnt start this thread to have it turn into a fight about objective understanding and acceptance of those that are different, BECASUE thats a given in life.

We are all different in life, and any variation of different, or even not should be accepted and non biased against, after all we are all homosapiens I hope.

Mara

Posted on: December 23, 2007, 11:07:28 AM

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Quote from: cindybc on December 23, 2007, 06:12:14 AM
Hi
For the most part some of us were simply only making fun about testes. Not telling anyone what to think, feel or do about it. Yes I am post-op so what's wrong with joking about certain parts of our body that we went through a lot of pain even fear of dying, I didn't know what to expect I never had any kind of surgery before, and not to mention thee money to have them removed. I am sincerely sorry if that offended someone, it wasn't meant to be. What ever floats your boat and I hope it don't spring a leak.

Cindy

Cindy is right.  We were looking at the initial idea with humor and caring.  None of us were attacking people who want to keep their things.  Some of us were expressing curiosity that anyone would want them is all.  In my case, I was afraid it might lead to health problems. No judgments were being made, for the most part.

      I don't know if expressing disappointment or anger towards another person in a post is really a good thing.  Everybody is different and everybody has their personal belief system.  Sometimes, if an idea or position causes a negative emotion, it is probably best to take a break and respond with a positive point of view.

      I'm not naming anyone because I'm not blaming anyone.

Remember, civility is our friend.


Rebis

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we are not supposed to judge anyone. Sure!    but this is the kind of BS that needs to stop in the first place if "we" want respect and acceptance from society.  Sorry everyone, I don't know what planet you are from, but as far as I am concerned, the society I am from pays attention to all these crap.  Shallow?  close-minded?  Maybe!  but like it or not this is the kind of society/world we live in.  If you want to delude yourselves, fine be my guest, but don't suggest that EVERYONE has to believe what YOU do.

tink

Quote from: Tink on December 23, 2007, 01:06:57 PM
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we are not supposed to judge anyone. Sure!    but this is the kind of BS that needs to stop in the first place if "we" want respect and acceptance from society.  Sorry everyone, I don't know what planet you are from, but as far as I am concerned, the society I am from pays attention to all these crap.  Shallow?  close-minded?  Maybe!  but like it or not this is the kind of society/world we live in.  If you want to delude yourselves, fine be my guest, but don't suggest that EVERYONE has to believe what YOU do.

tink

I'm not too sure what you mean by this. Are you saying that if we , as a whole community, want acceptance from society instead of ridicule, then we have to ridicule instead of accept those that don't follow the ->-bleeped-<- "status quo"?

I'm not sure. Look, the only reason I started posting in this thread in the first place is because it upset me to see people making rather unfair comments ABOUT A REAL PERSON. I don't think what this woman did is really up for any to judge, she felt it was what she had to do, it doesn't affect anyone else's life here one tiny iota, so I don't see why the judging should happen anyway.

I don't know why ideas such as compassion, acceptance and tolerance become such dirty words here, when subjects like this come up. And I don't think the old "well, the world isn't a compassionate, accepting and tolerant place" arguement should really hold any ground. Sure, for a lot of the time it isn't. But people here really should know better than to let that justify them join in on the judging and ridicule.

And I guess I should say as well, obviously I'm not painting everyone with the same brush. Yes, I understand some people were just joking around, I didn't like that but I can see there was no malice involved. It was just the comments that went past being light-hearted and joking around, and went straight to judging this individual for the choice she made, that really got me upset.

Megan

Quote from: MeganRose on December 23, 2007, 01:29:59 PM

Quote from: Tink on December 23, 2007, 01:06:57 PM
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we are not supposed to judge anyone. Sure!    but this is the kind of BS that needs to stop in the first place if "we" want respect and acceptance from society.  Sorry everyone, I don't know what planet you are from, but as far as I am concerned, the society I am from pays attention to all these crap.  Shallow?  close-minded?  Maybe!  but like it or not this is the kind of society/world we live in.  If you want to delude yourselves, fine be my guest, but don't suggest that EVERYONE has to believe what YOU do.

tink

I'm not too sure what you mean by this. Are you saying that if we , as a whole community, want acceptance from society instead of ridicule, then we have to ridicule instead of accept those that don't follow the ->-bleeped-<- "status quo"?

I'm not sure. Look, the only reason I started posting in this thread in the first place is because it upset me to see people making rather unfair comments ABOUT A REAL PERSON. I don't think what this woman did is really up for any to judge, she felt it was what she had to do, it doesn't affect anyone else's life here one tiny iota, so I don't see why the judging should happen anyway.

I don't know why ideas such as compassion, acceptance and tolerance become such dirty words here, when subjects like this come up. And I don't think the old "well, the world isn't a compassionate, accepting and tolerant place" arguement should really hold any ground. Sure, for a lot of the time it isn't. But people here really should know better than to let that justify them join in on the judging and ridicule.

Megan

Yeah that's what I meant.  I am close-minded and believe in black and white, remember?

tink

Tink, I'm not trying to attack you.

I'm just concerned about what you are saying, that because the world isn't the perfect, Utopian, "let's love and accept everyone and not judge them for the choices they make so they can live a better life" place that it's OK to just buy into the ignorance or the indifference.

As a marginal community in the grand scheme of things at best, and one that sees a lot of ignorance or indifference from a rather large portion of the rest of society, I can't help but feel like we should be supporting each other, not judging or ridiculing those that at least share some common ground, becuase they decided to do it a little different from how you or anyone else did it. Is that fair enough?

Megan