I don't know why I have dysphoria , all I know is that its been there since birth. I personally believe for me it maybe a combination of genes and hormones. My brain just refuses to accept the configuration of my genitals. I've had this for at least 60 years that I am aware of. It's really been a nasty deformation of my psyche. I feel so much better with HRT, but the effects on the mind-body day to day deformation are ever present. I've come to the belief that that only solution for me personally  would be GCS. Does anyone have a more specific clue as to what this situation is with their dysphoria.

I'm pretty sure I know the cause of mine but at this point it doesn't really matter.  But I really don't fully understand what you are asking.  Is it how dysphoria manifests itself in us or is it something else?


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Quote from: Deborah on December 21, 2015, 10:25:54 AM
I'm pretty sure I know the cause of mine but at this point it doesn't really matter.  But I really don't fully understand what you are asking.  Is it how dysphoria manifests itself in us or is it something else?


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Maybe more like what you think might of be the cause not really the expression. For me it showed  itself when I was 4 so the only thing that could of possibly of caused it was something prior to birth . I know my brain is definitely wired as a female so I guessing for me it's juust a genetic configuration of some sort that's cause all the stress of feeling mismatched body and mind.

I believe it is epigenetic and due to hormonal influence on prenatal gene expression.  In my case it was DES.

In my case "the trans" didn't hit me hard until puberty began although maybe there were signs before then.  I'm not really sure.

I grew up pretty gender ignorant though and didn't have any clear idea of the differences between girls and boys until right around the time puberty started.

It makes sense to me that "the trans" might manifest itself at this point as that is when the hormone balance starts to change and certain body changes become inevitably certain.

My psychologist also assured me that this is not at all uncommon.


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I was born in 1951 so it's possible that I was hit by that hormone treatment , but there is no way I can find out because my parents have passed.

Although DES is particularly notorious, there could be any number of other reasons for abnormal hormone levels prenatally.    You're right though that trying to determine that specific cause is impossible.  It would probably be impossible even if you were 10 years old.  There is just too much going on during gestation and unless a mother is hooked up to a battery of monitors for nine months a precise cause/day/time can't be known.

However, this epigenetic process is very well documented medically and scientifically and has been duplicated in animal studies.


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the force of this dysphoria is such that for me its got to be something genetic or hormonal that happened prior to birth. This dysphoria is just so much a part of me

I see it as a simple fact, being born with a female brain into a male body

I've never had it. Not that I know of anyways. I did not see inconvenience as a choice, but that's what it is because of certain clothes.

Quote from: herekitten on December 21, 2015, 12:10:22 PM
I've never had it. Not that I know of anyways. I did not see inconvenience as a choice, but that's what it is because of certain clothes.

It use to make me so angry growing up when I  use to sneak and try on my older sisters bra. I got so upset because my body wouldn't fill the cups at all and I had to stuff with tissue.

I voted "Other". I simply don't know, given the dearth of conclusive research on the subject. It may be that there are a cocktail of causes, or a single cause from that list. I don't think the answer is unknowable, merely outside the bounds of what we currently understand.

I read something once about prenatal medication given to pregnant women. I discussed it with my mother and found out that the doctor didn't know she was pregnant 3 months in and gave her a supplement with estrogen. I don't know if that's it, but it was a strange coincidence. I don't really care what the cause is anymore though. It just is and I have no desire for anybody to find a "cure".

I gladly accept the current medical thinking that it happens during early development in the mothers womb. Don't worry to much about the details. It's way better than what I read back in the 70's that pretty much told me I was a mentally ill pervert of some kind. Bottom line something occurred that led to my brain developing one way and my body another. What I'm focusing on is not the why but how to make changes within myself to live whats left of my life as a happy me and not the sad fake man that I've existed as all these years. My mantra now is look forward not back.

Quote from: lostcharlie on December 22, 2015, 09:57:26 AM
[...] What I'm focusing on is not the why but how to make changes within myself to live whats left of my life as a happy me and not the sad fake man that I've existed as all these years. My mantra now is look forward not back.

+1

Science is working on it... that's what science does!

I'll have to donate my body

Its not my upbringing that cause it. I think its either brain or hormones at gestation. I have horrible spatial skills, I tend to avoid driving. I have horrible time being loud and leader-like. I have a female like memory. It was an there by 5 yrs old in memory... But I dont really like male singers (unless its a love ballad).

I make a horrible guy.

Not to bring sex into this, but the idea of being a top is like noooooo.

Quote from: Wild Flower on December 22, 2015, 09:36:09 PM
Its not my upbringing that cause it. I think its either brain or hormones at gestation. I have horrible spatial skills, I tend to avoid driving. I have horrible time being loud and leader-like. I have a female like memory. It was an there by 5 yrs old in memory... But I dont really like male singers (unless its a love ballad).

I make a horrible guy.

Not to bring sex into this, but the idea of being a top is like noooooo.

I made a horrible guy just never fit hated the social part hated the guy ppart in the dating process. I love sex , but always never liked playing the dominant role.

I was a DES "son" too.  Dr. Scott Kerlin has done a lot of research on DES as it relates to gender identity.

If you were exposed in-utero to DES, there is a very high chance you have gender identity problem.  If you don't have gender identity problems you are probably in denial.

Quote from: Deborah on December 21, 2015, 10:53:05 AM
I believe it is epigenetic and due to hormonal influence on prenatal gene expression.  In my case it was DES.

I wish there was a way to find out , but bot my parents have passed and I doubt there's any records of that consider it would of been my mothers physician and those records are long gone. I feel it would make sese at least for me because I came out screaming womanhood. If it wasn't that then there is some very strong genetic involvement.