Perfect pass, zeno.

Quote from: Zeno on December 28, 2015, 12:44:34 PM


3rd photo I've posted but whatever. Anything I can improve?

try shaving the sides with a higher guard so your ears aren't hidden halfway. it'll be a nice little change as you get older

Thank you guys =) And I probably should shave the sides seeing as most people tell me too haha

I identify  as  transmale, 24y.
SO I welcome any ideas for me.. Since i Often get to hear  the wrong prounance.
People assume  that I am a girl. I wear retro- and genderneutral clothes.


So You guys got any tips?

Some pick,  incl.  1 to show body fat etc. 





Le mascara! Mustasch


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You have a pretty masculine face in the pic where I can actually see it (though a face pic that's less fem would be helpful if you want passing tips--it's hard to overlook te deep cut shirt.  I can say now that your haircut is very feminine and not just because it's long.  Most Cis guys with long hair don't get it layered.). I would say it's probably mostly the long hair combined with your voice.  My voice is the factor that always gives me away, though it is finally starting to drop.  I know Cis guys who get mistaken for females because they have long hair (unless they are the kind who never wash it and wear it pulled up in a ball cap while wearing cowboy boots and a Dixie flag on their shirt.). Being pre-T if you care about passing then you have to conform more to the stereotypes.  If passing is less important to you than personal style, then it doesn't matter.  But before T it is hard to have both unless you happen to be six feet tall or have some other genetic anomaly that is mostly found in men.

these are from a year ago...



a few months ago


im pre-everything
the only thing that seems to be a problem to prevent me from passing completely on the streets would be my voice and my chest...

Hey,    jordmungand, you totally pass for me and your Doctor Who hoodie rocks!

Also, I have problems with my voice too. Just when I think I got the pitch right a kid comes up and calls me lady... Maybe train your voice? but be careful, you could get hurt.

youtube's the best place for tutorials
apparently, you can train to lower it
from the tutorial i've seen, just lower your voice when you talk, yawn, stretch your neck and don't wear your binder too much (prevents you from taking deep breathes for the talking thing)
but the guy said it worked for him, so he doesn't know if it would apply to everyone

@whatsorsa
You have a lot of masculine features and shapes in your advantage. You do look fem in the last pic but only because of the hair and clothes. You're pretty andro to my eyes overall so mannerisms and voice may make or break you irl. If you planned on going on T it would look good on you.

@jordmungand
You look great pre T. Pretty much a photo pass for a younger fella. With the right voice I wouldn't question your gender.

AS FOR MYSELF, happy 5ish months I guess: http://imgur.com/a/9LP4w how am I holding up?

This was recent...Im surprised at how male I looked at the time. Now Im not so sure. Still pretty awesome, though.

Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on January 17, 2016, 03:49:01 PM


This was recent...Im surprised at how male I looked at the time. Now Im not so sure. Still pretty awesome, though.

conaidering u look like my friend Chris id say u pass lol.

Feeling better. Still pre-T, but lost some more weight (not sure you can tell in a headshot, but still...)

http://imgur.com/Ouf3yDL

Since I stopped shaving, I'm passing more. Maybe 50% passing, and 25% confusion, and 25% people taking pictures of the bearded woman. lol.

It's been a while since I posted, but here's a new one (in all it's cruddy quality glory) to mark almost being a year on T.

So. I'm not so sure about this, but is there anything I can do to improve passibilty?

Pre-everything, I've been told the piercings are a bit feminizing since it's an uncommon configuration and being a lot on my face but I like them anyway.

Quote from: Ciaran on February 02, 2016, 12:20:52 PM
Pre-everything, I've been told the piercings are a bit feminizing since it's an uncommon configuration and being a lot on my face but I like them anyway.

i do not think that you pass. i'd suggest not doing your eyebrows anymore and letting them be a bit more messy. as for your hair, sides should be shorter. i think that you have a great jawline with a lot of potential, so with a new haircut and fixing your brows, you would look different. as for the piercings, i think the bridge piercing is fine, but the others on your nostrils are a bit 'feminine' to me. not sure about the others, but if you're keen on passing, try out difference things to help

Quote from: palexander on February 07, 2016, 09:23:13 PM
i do not think that you pass. i'd suggest not doing your eyebrows anymore and letting them be a bit more messy. as for your hair, sides should be shorter. i think that you have a great jawline with a lot of potential, so with a new haircut and fixing your brows, you would look different. as for the piercings, i think the bridge piercing is fine, but the others on your nostrils are a bit 'feminine' to me. not sure about the others, but if you're keen on passing, try out difference things to help

Thank you for the tips! I cut my own hair so I'll take the sides and back in a bit more to see if that helps. I think in this picture I had only trimmed it once since growing out from a clipper cut that was all wrong for me, I have no sideburns yet to carry it off and I got my dad's hairline that comes to a deep point in the back then just curls into a tail as it grows until I can comb it down and square it off. My brows don't grow in all the way and are really thin naturally, especially in the outer half where parts are only a single line of hairs I keep as a guide. If I don't do anything to them it looks weird against dark hair but I'll work on being less heavy handed filling them in and change the shape up until I find one that works better.

I have clear glass retainers for the nostril piercings so those can be hidden if I have to until I can pass with jewelry in. My septum is done as well but I normally keep the jewelry hidden, maybe if I swap out a plain ring in there for hiding the other ones it'll help since that's usually considered a more gender neutral location for a nose piercing.

Quote from: jordmungand on January 15, 2016, 10:13:31 AM
a few months ago


im pre-everything
the only thing that seems to be a problem to prevent me from passing completely on the streets would be my voice and my chest...

You look 100% male! I've always been jealous of asians, because they seem to transition either direction almost effortlessly. If you start on T and can bind, I can't imagine you'll ever be mistaken for a girl.

we're all doing great

Pre errythang. Feeling like I'm looking more queer / andro with blonde hair, but I'm a queer guy and I do drag (occasionally) so go figure


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What do y'all think?